Do we need a POP3 capable email client?



  • We need your opinion and vote to understand how common is the POP3 usage nowadays. Please vote your option, and add any relevant comment. Thanks in advance.



  • I still use ONLY POP3 and will probably continue to do so in the foreseeable future. So, yes, at least I need it…



  • I don't see a point for POP3, every server I know supports IMAP, and lack of IMAP support can be the only reason for people to still stick to POP3. AFAIK you can always configure your IMAP client to act similar to POP3.



  • Sorry Inglês is not my language, automatic translator use. Working with Mac since 1996. Current Mount Lion system and do not want to update . Use Browser Opera 12.16 is including email, IMAP and POP3. I really like Vivaldi , anxiously expect the version with email. Thank you


  • Moderator

    short answer: I.M.A.P. :woohoo:



  • yes I use IMAP :lol:



  • Yes.

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  • There was an interesting discussion between Steffie and D0J0P about POP3 vs IMAP in the Gmail Alternatives Thread

    Like Pesala, I would like both options, choosing IMAP for main email account(s) and POP for "throwaway" type emails.



  • I use both here.


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    I use both.

    Using IMAP only, it is impossible to have 100% security that you won't lose essentially all of your emails, possibly forever, if the cloud server with which you are syncing experiences a data loss, as GMail has already done, at least twice. GMail has more money and servers than God, and had everything backed up, so they were eventually able to restore everyone's lost mail. But people retrieving mail from GMail by IMAP woke up one morning to discover that even all of their old, "saved" emails were missing from local storage on their machine thanks to the wonders of IMAP syncing.

    If Vivaldi goes "IMAP only," I will still have to keep a minimum of 2 email clients active daily on my machine. I'd rather not have to do that.



  • @pneumatig:

    every server I know supports IMAP,.

    [citation needed]



  • I have 1 GB of storage for emails on my mail server. The biggest problem with IMAP is that at some point this would be full. With POP3, it is easy to download all mails locally to store on a PC. Normally, I leave them on the server for three months to allow access from phone, tablet and other devices but they are automatically deleted from the server by the POP3 client three months after first being downloaded.



  • @pneumatig:

    I don't see a point for POP3, every server I know supports IMAP, and lack of IMAP support can be the only reason for people to still stick to POP3. AFAIK you can always configure your IMAP client to act similar to POP3.

    Well then you presume wrong!

    If you don't want to use the server for permanent storage then IMAP is TERRIBLE in comparison to POP… I am an old, old school internet user and I have an OperaMail account which is limited in storage space - so in fact I have to clean it out every few weeks after it became IMAP only. That's a monthly annoyance I have to deal with - but back when I had POP access it was absolutely no problem... Opera would automatically delete old mail from the server after a couple of weeks but it remained permanently available on my PC.

    Then there's my old-school user paranoia: I want to keep control of my own data rather than let Google, Yahoo! or Microsoft own me! I absolutely hated when servers started to drop POP since it became necessary to periodically export mail from my IMAP accounts, delete them then import them into my old OperaMail POP account so I keep my own local copy.

    This probably has much to do with how the server is configured, but in general: IMAP = sync = cloud = privacy/security issues. POP = download = user-control.

    Edit: and to touch on what AyeSpy and Doctor D mentioned - plenty of mail services I have used had mail issues or space issues or security issues or got closed down. I still have ALL my mail from ALL of my accounts going right back to circa 1990. That's nearly impossible if they were all IMAP-only servers!



  • I use POP3

    @pneumatig:

    every server I know supports IMAP

    … but not all server supported officially IMAP.


  • Vivaldi Team

    Hi all,
    While I personally have no trouble using either protocol, there are still many experienced Web users that do not understand email technologies. The chance for confusion is made ever more difficult when people begin using services like gmail as an intermediate means of moving multiple accounts around. Folks click on preferences without knowing the difference between POP and SMTP and just end up doing what works! I think for the foreseeable future, implementing POP3 just ensures we have a fallback for all of our users, who may be power users on the Web but newcomers to email protocols. Surely it's an added chunk of work, and that's never ideal when we have so much to do, but I think doing it now will save us some problems for the short term, and over the longer term we can adjust as needed. Far easier to remove a detailed feature in most cases than add it after the fact!



  • @mossman:

    If you don't want to use the server for permanent storage then IMAP is TERRIBLE in comparison to POP… I am an old, old school internet user and I have an OperaMail account which is limited in storage space - so in fact I have to clean it out every few weeks after it became IMAP only.

    I never had a problem with that. I have over 27000 messages stored from 6 different IMAP severs since 1998 to the present day.

    Never had to clean anything because M2 and/or operamail limitations.



  • Thinking about what I wrote, I have a feature-request:

    IMAP message local storage options:

    • ability to migrate messages between server and offline storage
    • option to auto-migrate to local storage after X days

    That would be a perfect client-side fix for IMAP's shortcomings - and would be a nice feather in the cap for Vivaldi too! :)



  • This shouldn't even be a question. It may be outdated but it's still in use (perhaps for simplicity) and IMAP is not always offered.
    Vivaldi is supposed to be for "power users". How would denying those users certain options achieve that goal?



  • @The_Solutor:

    I have over 27000 messages stored from 6 different IMAP severs since 1998 to the present day.

    Well then you're lucky. I expect they are all big, well-known providers with "limitless" server-parks, and not little servers set up for small-businesses or clubs.

    Just because you haven't seen space issues doesn't mean they don't happen. I already told you that my main OperaMail address is still limited in space, even in this day and age. And I've seen plenty of crashed or full servers over the years. It happens!



  • @mossman:

    Well then you're lucky. I expect they are all big, well-known providers with "limitless" server-parks, and not little servers set up for small-businesses or clubs.

    Well… Personally I care about my mail, hence I choose a reliable client, and also a reliable service provider

    A buggy/not properly configured server can affect IMAP/POP and any other way to get the mail. It's just a different problem.


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