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Just too sluggish



  • Hi I have been trying Vivaldi on various computers for a wile and I realised I have been using it less and less without making that conscious decision. The reason - it just doesn't respond well. Everything I do is slower than it is on Firefox. It just overall feels very sluggish. The 2nd reason is that I log in to my servers often that have a self signed certificate. Often it doesn't work and I get "no data" or something to that effect and a blank page. I never get this on any other browser though. Cheers Theo



  • If pcs are "old" with few ram, maybe ff is the right choice.
    Which vivaldi builds? (if you have older versions, especially 1.0-1.1, you should try 1.2 branch which fix a lot of things).
    About servers, if they use auth specifically done to works better with specific browsers, could be a problem, but I can't say without knowing what type of servers are :)
    Probably there's a way to import certs, but I don't know how.





  • @mib2berlin:

    Hi, for certs check:
    https://vivaldi.net/de/forum/vivaldi-browser-for-linux/8012-import-certificates?limitstart=0#45197

    Strange..
    here with chrome://settings/certificates point toward a blank page and with vivaldi://settings/certificates point to settings page (without opening cert page).
    At least on 1.3, maybe on 1.2 works. Can someone confirm this?



  • Hi, it work for me on 1.3.501.6.

    Mib
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  • That's strange.
    I've got an old HP Pavilion with 4GB ram and I've got always opened 30+ tabs on my browsers.
    Firefox works like turtle.
    Opera works like dead onion. ….joking. It works moderately well (not very responsive but better than above) bot it stucks after laptop's close/open. This problem remains for several months now.
    Vivaldi works well. It's responsive and quite fast.
    Only sometimes it needs some time to load a page (FB, Kwejk etc.)

    So what are your specs and how many tabs are you working on?



  • Hi, I am not a multi tab user except for news reading but max 10 tabs.
    Some pages are very slow, this forum for example, cnn.com need about 10 seconds to stop lagging.
    Chrome load cnn.com faster (5 sec) but never lag, even all pictures not loaded.
    I am on old Laptop:

    Opensuse Tumblweed x86_64
    CPU Intel T4200 4 GB
    GPU Intel GN 965
    xf86-video-intel 2.99.917-6.1
    Vivaldi 1.0 and latest snapshot

    My other system is much snappier but still some pages lag > this forum.

    Opensuse Tumblweed x86_64
    Intel i5 3570K 16 GB RAM
    GTX 760 4 GB /Display card
    GTX 670 2 GB
    Driver 361.28

    Cheers, mib
    P.S. If you are a power user you need also a power system. :P



  • Yeah, the whole Interface is still a bit slow. It's nothing I notice right away, but after awhile I notice how I tend to start Firefox or Chrome, not Vivaldi, because everything just doesn't feel as smooth in Vivaldi, especially tab handling.

    And I use a pretty solid machine with a Sandy Bridge @4 Ghz and 16 GB of RAM.



  • @mlungu:

    I have been trying Vivaldi on various computers for a wile and I realised I have been using it less and less without making that conscious decision. The reason - it just doesn't respond well. Everything I do is slower than it is on Firefox. It just overall feels very sluggish.

    Vivaldi's UI is not only very slow and non-responsive, it also drains battery like nothing else. And that's real killer for mobile use. While on the other hand Opera 38 now offers a battery saver for browsing. Guess what ended up being installed on my mobile devices?

    It seems Vivaldi assumes, that CPU power is free in 2016, that CPU development catching up will fix the performance. It won't, it isn't 2002 anymore.



  • @Lurtz:

    Yeah, the whole Interface is still a bit slow. It's nothing I notice right away, but after awhile I notice how I tend to start Firefox or Chrome, not Vivaldi, because everything just doesn't feel as smooth in Vivaldi, especially tab handling.

    And I use a pretty solid machine with a Sandy Bridge @4 Ghz and 16 GB of RAM.

    That's very very strange, because what keeps me WITH vivaldi is exactly that it runs much faster than Firefox or Opera (didn't try chrome thou).
    It's responsive on my laptop with 30+ tabs open, 7+ word documents, exel, bit torrent and Thuderbird.
    The same load with Firefox would result in a completely sluggish experience.
    Actually NOW i feel like took fresh air!!



  • Theo, I found the exact opposite to be true. I use used to use FirFox exclusively with all of the search engines shut off except DuckDuckGo. I also use Maxthon, Opera and Edge, and have found that Vivaldi absolutely smokes the competition. I have been in the computer industry since 1974 with IBM Mainframes with OSVS1&2, cobol, fortran and punch cards! My former company, USNexus Corp., was in internet startup that developed the world's first electronic shopping cart. Our offices were down the street from Mark Andreesen's when he released the first graphical version of Netscape. I have discovered that the biggest issue with browsers is that, over time, browser developers become overly focused on the browser's features rather than the interaction and interplay between the browser and the operating system. I do not know what system or what your system specs are, but I can tell you that I am running an Alienware 4 quadcore i7 processors, so my machine is fast anyway. Still, the working time of the Vivaldi browser compared to even a stripped out FireFox is incredible. I now find myself gravitating more and more to Vivaldi. I haven't used the other browsers much. I think it would be a great idea if the Vivaldi developers were to provide some sort of page where analysis results of Vivaldi comparing it to other browsers running on the most popular systems might be helpful. An example might be Vivaldi on a Windows 10 PC running an Intel i5 with 4 GB RAM or Windows 7 with AMD core that Hewlett-Packard sells. A simple graphical results would suffice.



  • Vivaldi is a Chromium with megabytes of Javascript code on top of it and Javascript is slow, even slower than Java (with which it only shares the name with). That is the reason why Vivaldi is slow and takes ages to launch.

    Only native code will get you a fast and snappy browser.

    Doing it this way or the other is a fundamental software architecture decision and most likely won't ever change in the lifetime of the Vivaldi browser. So there is not much you could do about it.



  • This truly sucks, as it's an excellent browser, yet 10 tabs and youtube pages still take too long to load!


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