Panel Scrolling



  • Hi...would be great to have the Web Panel scroll bars...right now we have to keep expanding the width...thanks!



  • There are already vertical scrollbars in panels if they are needed.

    In my opinion, if a panel needs horizontal scrollbars, what you need is to use only web pages that are designed for mobile devices. Not every page is suitable to use as a web panel.

    What web page are you trying to use as a panel?



  • my compay's wiki/jira or you can try even with news.google.com
    I see the scrollbars at times, after I login, they disappear, and sometimes I can see a vertical bar, but never the horizontal bar for certain pages
    but the fact that you say it will work only with mobile pages - where is this documented ? and what's the reasoning behind that ?



  • @rojaviv:

    The fact that you say it will work only with mobile pages - where is this documented ? and what's the reasoning behind that ?

    Is it not obvious that a page designed to work at 960 pixels is not going to work well at 320 pixels (or whatever your panels are). The BBC website is designed to be responsive for the benefit of visitors using mobiles, and Google Translate has a mobile version that can be used as a panel.



  • I dont care about pixels or damsels or whatever; all I am saying is it should behave as any normal desktop browser page, have a scrollbar when the page width exceed actual panel width.

    If you are saying panels are for mobile pages, the overall usefulness of the panel is lost and makes absolutely no sense whatsoever from a usability perspective.


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    @rojaviv:

    I dont care about pixels or damsels or whatever; all I am saying is it should behave as any normal desktop browser page, have a scrollbar when the page width exceed actual panel width.

    If you are saying panels are for mobile pages, the overall usefulness of the panel is lost and makes absolutely no sense whatsoever from a usability perspective.

    Panels are designed to be panels, not pages. Because a panel (being a panel) will always be of limited width, the developers built in a default function to look for a page that will work well at limited width. Last I checked, (I don't use panels that much) it is inconsistent. If you just use the plus sign and enter a URL, the added panel will be a standard page. Some of these will work fine as a panel and some not. However, if you right-click on page and "Add Page to Web Panel" it will usually find a page designed for the narrower format (mobile page).



  • So it is pretty much useless for those not in the loop - I was earlier under the impression we could have divided tabs instead of the external windows - an awesome feature or so I thought to have a left window and a friggin right window :)

    This now seems like a mobile mock to me…who gives a % about this anyway ?



  • If all you want is divided tabs, then use page tiling.


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    I fear Pesala is exactly right. Panels and Tiling are different functions, and treated differently. And tiling always produces a regular web page. Panels are most-commonly used (since they were introduce by OldeOpera fifteen years ago) as single-function pages, not as auxiliary browsing windows. For instance, I have a translator in one, a calendar in another, and a calculator in a third.

    "Modernly," we see these as "apps" that can be added to browsers as, essentially, special-function web pages accessible with a single button. I mean, hello - bookmarks? I think the original "panel" function was superior to "apps."

    Now tiling, as it presently exists in Vivaldi, is far from optimum. Dividers between tiles are not movable, which is the primary shortcoming. In OldeOpera, tiling was extremely versatile. It will eventually be here, as well.

    In addition, a few more normal page functions will be added to Panels, now that developers can see they are being used by some (UNEXPECTEDLY) as auxiliary/adjustable browser-in-browser browsing windows. I hope this context helps you to see how things came to be the way they are.


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