The rise of Artificial Intelligence
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@Catweazle i get what you worry about but the picture of a fat dude from wall-e is a bit overdramatic lol
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@elvisvan, I don't think that it is too overdramatic, Wall-e is naturally a film, which makes children laugh, but adults are choked as a brutal warning about our society of unbridled consumption, which makes our planet uninhabitable if we do not change.
With AI we are like children with new toys, as before with other technologies, becoming more and more dependent on it, until we can no longer survive without it.
If one day a solar flare causes a massive electrical blackout in a country, due to the EMP effect (there was already this in the past, although at that time the effect was only that some telegraph stations were burned, but today it would be the worst case), over weeks or months, a large portion of the population will die.
Happy then, those who have a garden with vegetables, some chickens and a well with water, would be the only survivors.
Without electricity there is no AI, no Internet, no Smartphone, no food supplies, no transportation, no water purification, no fuel, because the pumps will not work, no health supplies, no means of communication, no emergency services, no infrastructure... .Game over.
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Most of the chat "AI" is being made by big tech companies without any real business plan. One can hope that they will simply choke themselves out of a market, kind of like how big hollywood streamers are, or like how google can't seem to keep successful products going more than a few years, or like cryptocurrencies which were the big fad only to go nowhere because they weren't all that valuable beyond the hype.
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Not all AI is created equal
Assuming that this video is genuine, I guess that some smart students got together and all ordered a Waymo at the same time and place. I bet they were all
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Well, the new AI is so good and positive to all. Is'nt it?
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There are two kinds of people in the world:
- Glass half-empty people. They focus on the negative and the potential disadvantages of anything new.
- Glass half-full people. They focus on the positive and the potential benefits of anything new.
An intelligent person weighs up the pros and cons, warning of the need for caution and regulation to prevent its misuse, while focusing on how it can be improved and applied to new projects. Intelligent humanoid robots, for example, could take over all boring, physically demanding, and dangerous tasks, greatly reducing the costs for manufacturing and construction. The backward-thinking trade unions might oppose progress, wrongly thinking that it will lead to a loss of well-paid jobs. They fail to see that it would release human beings to be creative, giving them more time to care for family members, or the disadvantaged in society.
Imagine the cost-savings and stress relief if a disabled or elderly relative could be helped to bathe, use the bathroom, and eat, by a humanoid robot that could also provide intelligent conversation, while keeping in touch with relatives who are now able to return to productive employment, instead of relying on expensive, home-help to care for disabled family members.
AI is already taking the hard-graft out of writing, coding, and design. Architects and designers used to spend countless hours drawing and measuring lines on huge sheets of paper, but all of this work has been taken over by computer-aided design. Once a design is nearly complete, 3D printing can produce a prototype for testing, or even for making the finished product.
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@Pesala said in The rise of Artificial Intelligence:
Intelligent humanoid robots, for example, could take over all boring, physically demanding, and dangerous tasks, greatly reducing the costs for manufacturing and construction. The backward-thinking trade unions might oppose progress, wrongly thinking that it will lead to a loss of well-paid jobs. They fail to see that it would release human beings to be creative, giving them more time to care for family members, or the disadvantaged in society.
I don't think it's fair to smear trade unions like that. The recent strikes by the American Hollywood unions are being driven in part by the fact that studio executives want to kill off exactly the kind of creative work that you're saying AI will free us up for 1. And much of AI is being built on the back of very low-paid workers with poor protections, so it's more accurate to say it will encourage more demanding and dangerous tasks. 2
And as for taking the "hard graft" out of work - Chatbot based AI, which is what I'm assuming you're referring to, is so error-prone that anyone using it in a professional setting should double check everything it is writing, as there's no guarantee that it is safe or reliable. You mention coding, but even the engineers that made the AI systems say it is "worse than useless" 3.
"An intelligent person weighs up the pros and cons", well upon weighing the overwhelming cons against the few pros, the intelligent conclusion would be to not place much faith in it.
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AI is here to stay and there is no other way to use it sensibly. I have nothing against certain uses that can be useful, I use, for example, Andisearch.
In any case, I consider this a useful application, since it does not invent results, as Chatbots do. It even allows a search with a traditional search engine, to choose, if it do not find a clear answer (rarely),
Other one is maybe Phind, made specally for devs, to search scripts and codes or Perplexity, which combine a Chat with an search engine, but is less complete as Andi and also not so private.
Text2Image/video, well, may have some uses, but in this I applaude Google's plan to insert an invisible and indelible watermark in them, to avoid problems for real artistic works, since it allows us to easily differentiate a work of an artist from the one created with AI.
AI in industry, eg to find new compounds or drugs, can also be very useful, although they can also be used for bad purposes, as was recently shown in an AI from a pharmaceutical company, where a simple change in a line of code, caused this AI starts to design chemical and biological weapons. This naturally must be strictly controlled.
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@LonM said in The rise of Artificial Intelligence:
And as for taking the "hard graft" out of work - Chatbot based AI, which is what I'm assuming you're referring to, is so error-prone that anyone using it in a professional setting should double check everything it is writing, as there's no guarantee that it is safe or reliable. You mention coding, but even the engineers that made the AI systems say it is "worse than useless" 3.
I've been playing with these quite a bit recently both for coding and math assistance (I'm doing a Math for AI course). I've found them to be useful even when they get the answers wrong. But they are not a substitute for not thinking for yourself alongside them.
For example, in a recent math case I was unclear about the presentation in the course. After firing a question at the AI it gave an improved explanation of the concept but actually calculated its answer incorrectly. I was able to deduce this, ironically, from the very concept it had explained to me! I then told this to the AI and it corrected itself.
The AI works best when you already have some knowledge of the topic or domain, rather than when you're completely ignorant. So, don't ask it to write code when you've literally had no experience of coding yourself.
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@tanurai, you can also look in https://www.futuretools.io and https://www.futurepedia.io, or experiment yourself in https://huggingface.co/spaces with the models it offer.
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@Catweazle
In connection with artificial intelligence (AI) and you, there was something else.
May I ask if you've had a chance to get started?
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@ingolftopf, I'm interested in AI and what apps are out there, out of self-preservation. Know your enemy and see if there are friends among them.
I try to stay up to date and I also know the reasons why Vivaldi is so reserved on this topic. Really usable and private-friendly AI apps are so far the isolated major exception among the over 7,000 that exist, all of which should be used with caution At the moment I've found only 2 which are usefull for me, Andisearch and the Perplexity extension, other users may have different needs and for those I've put the links where they can search, but with a grain of salt. -
@Lighthouse812, I use Andisearch as main search engine, which is for sure the most étical and private AI out there. But in general there are very few AI apps that can be used as a function in Vivaldi, starting with the privacy requirements and that are OpenSource (most are from Google, Microsoft or Facebook (Perplexity). Although OpenSource (except Perplexity) with some TOS and PP quite debatable.
It is still the best to look at Future Tools, Futurepedia or Hugging Face apps to use them occasionally if necessary, instead of an inbuild AI with a certain function which may help or not. -
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@figaloprepod, yes, but Andisearch was the first one including AI in searches (own LLM), long time before all others. Its from the devs from the former LazyWeb.
