Floorp.

ybjrepnfr

@npro fwiw the beta update of 2 or 3 days ago fixed heaps of the problems i mentioned earlier... it's now a very very usable browser! today there was another update, but i couldn't notice anything obvious that had changed.

ongoing issues still needing to be fixed:

tab groups remain visible across all workspaces, instead of staying only in their correct WS
i cannot deduce how to unsplit tabs. there's no GUI tool for it that i can see, no context-menu item, & no keyboard-shortcut for it

ybjrepnfr

@ybjrepnfr News of v12.0.0RC

https://blog.floorp.app/ja/release/12.0.0-RC1

The Floorp 12 RC version is targeted around May 25

Article also mentions features added & removed, compared to v11.

Catweazle

@ybjrepnfr, removed sidebar, vertical tabs, CSS mods and some other things, which make Floorp unusable for me. I'll continue with Zen as second browser.

ybjrepnfr

@Catweazle said in Floorp.:

removed sidebar, vertical tabs

what?

nope.

Spoiler

3dvs

@Catweazle Zen is Not much different than firefox. Is it?

I use librewolf, has many privacy features
Limit cross origin reference
Resist fingerprint
Letterboxing
Web GL
Disable Google safe browsing

3dvs

@ybjrepnfr please share feature page on floor hub

ybjrepnfr

@3dvs

Hub Home

Tab & Appearance

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Panel Sidebar

Mouse Gestures

Catweazle

@ybjrepnfr, sip

Compared to Floorp 11, various features have been added and removed. This section introduces the removed features. If you were using a removed feature, please do not hesitate to send feedback. You can vote to bring it back.

User.js Settings The User.js settings that were available on the settings page have been removed in Floorp 12. Users will need to edit User.js manually.

Design-Related

Dual Theme The dual theme feature has been removed in Floorp 12.

Bookmarks Bar Auto-Expand/Position Change The settings to "Collapse bookmarks bar" and "Show bookmarks bar at the bottom of Floorp" are no longer available.

Appearance Mode The "Appearance Mode" setting, which allowed changing colors if the theme supported both "Dark" and "Light" modes, has been removed.

**Vertical Tabs Following Mozilla's implementation of vertical tabs, the vertical tabs setting has been removed in Floorp 12.
**

Panel Sidebar (Formerly Browser Manager Sidebar)

Icon Source In Floorp 11, icons for the panel sidebar were obtained using APIs from "Google" or "DuckDuckGo". In Floorp 12, icons stored within the browser are now prioritized, so this setting has been removed.

Workspaces

Integration with Panel Sidebar The integration of workspaces with the panel sidebar has been removed in Floorp 12.

Floorp Notes

Backup Feature Removed.

Keyboard Shortcuts

"Disable Firefox's shortcut keys" Setting Since Floorp now automatically overwrites Firefox's shortcut keys if they are set, the "Disable Firefox's shortcut keys" setting has been removed in Floorp 12.

Plugin Integration

Addition of Floorp-Specific Commands for Gesturefy Add-on With the completion of native mouse gesture implementation in Floorp 12, the addition of Floorp-specific commands for the Gesturefy add-on has been removed.

Default Execution of Plugins in Private Windows The specification to run uBlock Origin and Gesturefy in private windows by default has been removed. Users will need to change this in the settings.

Movement of Floorp Settings

Floorp-Specific Feature Settings in about:preferences With the implementation of Floorp Hub, changing Floorp-specific feature settings in about:preferences is no longer available. All settings related to Floorp features must be done in Floorp Hub. Floorp Hub can be opened from about:hub or the left sidebar of the settings page.

New Tab

Addition of Floorp-Specific Features to Floorp Home Following Mozilla's implementation of background image addition, the addition of Floorp-specific features to Floorp Home has been removed. Instead, Floorp Start, which includes previous settings and multiple additional features, will be the default going forward. Pinned bookmark information will be carried over. Floorp Start can be disabled from the settings page.

CSS Customization Accessible from Menu Bar

As a good implementation method has not yet been conceived, CSS customization has been removed for now. We plan to add it again in the future if a good implementation method is found.

rseiler

@ybjrepnfr Do they make the RC available for download?

I know the blog post says "From now on, when downloading a new installer from the official website, Floorp 12 will be downloaded by default," but I think they mean once released (in two weeks), not now, since v11 is the one they have on their main site.

Their main Github doesn't have it either.

The closest I found was their Github 12 Beta site, but that's not the RC but rather just the latest in their special beta channel.

ybjrepnfr

@rseiler the github site's 12 is the one i've been testing over the past month or two [& used for my pics, above]. mostly it refuses to internally update, despite me giving it the permissions, so each time a new beta posts on the site i d/l it & replace my older one in /opt/ with it. come the 25th, i am hoping that the RC will be listed on this github site.

ybjrepnfr

@ybjrepnfr the github site has a new beta update, since 6 hrs ago. i've just installed it & am testing now.

nice. though there's still no keyboard shortcut for it, there is now a GUI element that appears in the rhs of the addressbar when tabs are tiled, which gives us the previously missing controls for the tiles.

npro

June will be great for some, not so much for others

npro

@ybjrepnfr said in Floorp.:

@rseiler the github site's 12 is the one i've been testing over the past month or two [& used for my pics, above]. mostly it refuses to internally update, despite me giving it the permissions, so each time a new beta posts on the site i d/l it & replace my older one in /opt/ with it. come the 25th, i am hoping that the RC will be listed on this github site.

Since it wasn't updating for me either (ERROR: There must be at least one signature) I did this; since "assets" is not a repo to git clone it and have automatic updates, I downloaded the initial version (tar.xz) to my testing directory (say it is ~/workbench), then I added the part of checking for a new floorp 12 beta version to my humble chu alias which is:

❯ alias chu
chu='echo "-----repos-----" ; checkupdates ; echo "------AUR------"  ; yay -Qua ; echo "----floorpb----" ; wget -P ~/workbench -N https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp-12/releases/download/beta/floorp-linux-amd64.tar.xz 2>&1 | tail -n2 | head -n1'

(or one could use the far superior and more sophisticated awk 'NF{l=$0}END{print l}' (damn you awk) instead of the lazy & sloppy "tail & head" for noobs -which is more fun though!- )

so if you run this you get:

❯ chu
-----repos-----
------AUR------
----floorpb----
File ‘floorp-linux-amd64.tar.xz’ not modified on server. Omitting download.

otherwise it downloads the newest version, which you can extract again etc... (one could also add a line to kalu...)

ybjrepnfr

@npro show-off!

npro

@ybjrepnfr said in Floorp.:

@npro show-off!

(I know... but it's legacy now)

rseiler

@ybjrepnfr Finally, the RC is mentioned on the main download page:
https://floorp.app/en-US/download

Looks like it went up 4 hours ago:
https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp/releases

npro

edited the PKGBUILD and upgraded, so far so good, except the new Home (still) does not have a 3-dot menu to pin sites. I was thinking about ditching Speed Dial 2 for a more simple and slim New Tab Page.

P.S. I like the work done on Notes though

rseiler

@npro I'm new to it, but there's a sidebar and a panel sidebar. Why two? Sure, you can use one, two, or even none, but I'm curious why there isn't a unified bar.

ybjrepnfr

@rseiler oh thank goodness! i was just having a little panic, when i went for my daily visit to the Beta site, only this time to see this scare:

Spoiler

now to calm down, & go follow your link; thank you for it.

ybjrepnfr

@ybjrepnfr hmmm, there's no user-facing features new / different to what i have been using til today in the Betas, so today's update, or rather conversion from Beta to Stable, is entirely unexciting for me... not to say bad nor disappointing, just that there's no shiny shiny new in it for me. the corollary of that is that there's also no fix yet for the bug that the tab thumbnails break every time the Split-Tab function is terminated. also so far, there's no Mouse Gesture nor Keyboard Shortcut for moving tabs to other Workspaces, nor to invoke Tab-Splitting & Unsplitting... meaning using TST in Floorp12 in lieu of the native FF vertical tabs remains compromised, alas.

am now thinking of jumping back from it to Firefox Nightly again, except the buggers have still not fixed their taskbar / plasma panel native Nightly icon that they broke a couple of months ago, & seeing that ugly wayland icon all day every day grates on my nerves.

if only there were some other browser...