Maybe it's time for a comprehensive open source?
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@MattSolo45 care to explain how porting the browser to cars makes whatever Vivaldi does less trustworthy?
As for development speed, it's totally normal for Scandinavians to take a long break over the summer time. If you think that Chinese or American investor funded alternatives are more trustworthy than a primarily Scandinavian employee owned small business based on partner deals, well ... let's be happy that there are choices available for everyone
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@MattSolo45 You are free to use Brave. Do it.
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@MattSolo45 The Snapshot release topics are for discussing new bugs/regressions, not for this type of debate. I have forked the relevant posts off.
Free free to edit your topic title to something you feel is relevant.
Please keep the Snapshot topics for discussing Snapshot releases. They will be locked on new releases, so any ongoing discussion will be lost.
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@MattSolo45 said in Maybe it's time for a comprehensive open source?:
Maybe it's time for a comprehensive open source?
Yes, but that works only with a complete new browser render engine? Really? A non-commercial product? You want this?
I see Thunderbird (no innovation, broken OpenPGP, unstable mail database) or Ladybird
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@MattSolo45 and all the others:
If you want to give up Vivaldi, don't try to convince the rest, it sounds ridiculous and pathetic, just quit quietly.
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@MattSolo45 said in Maybe it's time for a comprehensive open source?:
Maybe it's time for a comprehensive open source?
And then, all from the community will tell devs what to do? Or what do you want?
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@MattSolo45 Open Source does not have more influence on the way a product will go.
And feedback and reports are ignored in Open Source, too. Sad, i am much more disappointed with Open Souce as you might think. And, no, partly Closed Source like Vivaldi and others is not better. -
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That's what the community is for, to share opinions and sometimes show a problem….
Of course it is, but that is valid WHILE you are using Vivaldi, NOT when you have stopped using it.
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Is it wrong to persuade people to think?
Because doing it afterwards, the only thing it seems to do is to try to make others do the same, i.e. abandon Vivaldi, not improve it, and that's the ridiculous and pathetic thing to do.
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If you have any objections, you can express your opinion. And if you don't agree with Vivaldi's development. So switch to another browser.
And you have peace.
These posts about someone leaving. It really takes a thread to write about it?
Simple, when someone is dissatisfied, there is a uninstall button.I apologize for my English. I use Deepl to translate and Vivaldi translate.
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@MattSolo45, and also more open to Google and Microsoft for their Chromiums to make these also better and kill any other.
FOSS is nice for improving a new software with a community driven developement, but this advantage in a market with already more than 100 browsers, the major part Chromiums and derivated, this value has become debatable. If the unique UI of Vivaldi become OpenSource and Chrome and Edge also use it, its at the same time the end of all other Chromium, include Vivaldis, apart of the most others, than GOOGLE really dominate all.
Novadays Chrome has a marketshare of over 70%, Vivaldi not even 2% and only is mencioned because of it's unique features and UI which nobody else has, If it goes FOSS, nobody can avoid that Chrome and EDGE fork it, with this "That's all folks, game over".
Current Opera is direct closed source like Chrome and Brave is a good browser, but it don't has any special features which you can't find in others (Ur, Maxthon, Epic...) apart of it's shady relations with crypto companies which nobody else want.
The browser market is pretty saturated and there is a active war to dominate the market, in this part of software, because of this, FOSS not longer is a relevant feature.
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@MattSolo45 said in Maybe it's time for a comprehensive open source?:
@Fubero Then why its a forum if you can't express your own opinion?
Obviously you can: you have done it.
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