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      ybjrepnfr @lukaskarabec
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      @lukaskarabec said in are you using any AI in your browser?:

      are you using any AI in your browser?

      i'd really really like to answer you, but the bot has captured my pet cockatoo & threatened to incinerate her if i give up any of their skynet secrets.

      Look, you've got it all wrong! You don't need to follow me. You don't need to follow anybody! You've got to think for yourselves! You're all individuals!

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      lukaskarabec Translator @ybjrepnfr
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      @ybjrepnfr 😃

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      wintercoast @lukaskarabec
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      @lukaskarabec said in are you using any AI in your browser?:

      Hi, are you using any AI in your browser? Chatpgt, bing, bard or something similar? Alternatively, which one seems best to you and how does it help you?

      Yes. I currently have these set up in my sidebar.

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      I mostly use Bing, ChatGPT, Perplexity and Phind. Sometimes Bard and Claude.

      I find them useful for software and technical learning tasks. But it helps to have some prior knowledge ex ante. I find that even when they get their answers wrong I can still end up learning from them.

      Usually I use more than one at a time to cross-check. Even when several get the right answers, one or other might answer in a nicer or more complete way.

      No one is best for all prompts. It's another reason to try more than one.

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      Coach8264
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      This thread id old but will give my 2 cents worth anyway.

      I use the chat bots to do the exclusionary searches that became too difficult when bing and google dropped advanced search syntax in favor of exclusively supporting "natural language" searches.

      I used to make heavy use of advanced search syntax when using bing and google. It was a very nice way to get the exact results I wanted and I became quite good at it.

      To use an example from their own forums—

      +crowns -dental
      

      —would return results including the word crowns and excluding any results that included dental.

      It was very frustrating when they both dropped support for it to exclusively pursue "natural language" searches that only returned the results they though I should want instead of the ones I asked for. So called "natural language" queries don't seem to care what I don't want to know about.

      The appearance of the chat bots (Chat-GPT, Bard, etc.) has returned some of that ability to perform exclusionary searches. While I do not expect it to last (because I don't think it fits with their ad model) the chat bots do seem to understand what I do not want to know about when I take the time to write a query they understand. A query like—

      Show me information about crowns excluding all results that include the word dental
      

      —might be a bit more cumbersome to write but it does give me exactly the results I asked for, nicely summarized with links to referenced sources I can use for more information — all without any of the information I wanted excluded.

      Unfortunately, there is a huge downside. All of the chat bots tend to use such matter of fact language in their summaries that most people will assume what they say must be true — whether or not it actually is. The bad news is that while the chat bots seem to be able to find information they also seem to lack the ability to determine if that information is accurate — and whether my mistake, laziness, or design, there is a lot of bad information out there.

      While I will use the chat bots for the types of exclusionary searches I would have used advanced syntax for in the past I do not use them for much else, nor am I likely to any time in the near future. I like being able to write my own code and draft my own letters and other documents. I am too afraid I would lose those skills if I started relying on a chat bot to do those things for me.

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      Streptococcus
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      I use Phind occasionally. It works only with Safari, but I have gotten good results from it.

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      Catweazle @Streptococcus
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      @Streptococcus, Phind also works in Vivaldi, used in the search engine list or in the Web Panel, alternatively you can use also Perplexity.ai in the similar way (search engine or web panel).

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      00sapo
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      Search engines and ChatGPT-like stuffs are different IMHO. I use Perplexity and You.com for researching complex topics. But I use duckduckgo and startpage way more times per day. Phind.com is nice, but having OpenAI GPT models and GitHub Copilot integrated in Neovim is much superior

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      Zalex108 Moderator @lukaskarabec
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      @lukaskarabec said in are you using any AI in your browser?:

      I ask because many colleagues use AI to create scripts and find answers. I myself have not yet found a complete use for it. So I'm interested in the experience of others.

      Hi,
      Recently a coworker mentioned that, uses GPT4 to help him creating "amateur" UserScripts to apply on TamperMonkey 😆

      Actually works,
      I use his .user.js too 😂

      It seems to help but as mentioned above, you have to have some background or spend longer time.

      "You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you" · Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

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      DoctorG Soprano
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      As a test i tried to use ChatGPT and others for programming questions. Unfortunately suggested Python or Ruby or Perl modules never existed in WWW, and the more i tried to ask caused more hallucinated answers by AI.

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      Catweazle @DoctorG
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      @DoctorG, https://www.programming-helper.com ?

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      DoctorG Soprano @Catweazle
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      @Catweazle No, useless as i expected.
      OK, i do not need it, i only wanted to test if the Intelligence in AI bot is high enough to help on a higher level than for programmer rookie. 😉

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      Catweazle @DoctorG
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      @DoctorG, well, let see what AI in the future can do. The trend is already going in the direction that AI designs algorithms so complex that a human can no longer understand them (it scares me)

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      Streptococcus @Catweazle
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      @Catweazle said in are you using any AI in your browser?:

      @Streptococcus, Phind also works in Vivaldi, used in the search engine list or in the Web Panel, alternatively you can use also Perplexity.ai in the similar way (search engine or web panel).

      I tried using Phind from Vivaldi's search box and I get this error:
      Application error: a client-side exception has occurred (see the browser console for more information).

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      Catweazle @Streptococcus
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      @Streptococcus, works for me without problems

      https://www.phind.com/search?q=%s
      

      But I observed that, a few seconds after the search results appears the URL change from

      https://www.phind.com/search?q=xxxxx
      

      to

      https://www.phind.com/search?cache=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
      

      Apart of this it works as it should

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      Streptococcus @Catweazle
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      @Catweazle
      Maybe it is something in the operating system? I get the same error if I try to use Phind with LibreWolf.

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      Catweazle @Streptococcus
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      @Streptococcus, you will have to figure this out by yourself (settings, Firewall, security soft, other extensions...). I can't reproduce a bug with any of the other browsers I use. 😑

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      Catweazle @DoctorG
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      @DoctorG, as said, the game is going on
      https://medium.com/@pareto_investor/chatgpt-has-just-been-dethroned-by-french-geniuses-bcee41843775

      https://mistral.ai/news/mixtral-of-experts/

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      SushiComb0
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      I am honestly enjoying using copilot in Bing. The suggestions it brings forward when I need to use it for some productivity are pretty great.

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