Same old New Window now opens faster – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3062.3

OakdaleFTL

@daniel said in Same old New Window now opens faster – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3062.3:

@OakdaleFTL I’ve confirmed that there’s nothing obviously wrong with the app bundle. What version of MacOS are you running? Vivaldi supports MacOS version 10.13 and newer. You seem to be moving app bundles with terminal. Are you sure you didn’t do a non-recursive/shallow move or copy?

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No, I hadn't used the terminal for anything except to verify the file permissions...and to see that, indeed, the package was all there! But my install was somehow corrupted -in an unobvious way: As well as what I noted previously, the app couldn't be deleted!
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But I was able to re-install...requesting an over-write. (The result is shown in the above snippet of the Finder's Applications window...)

A re-boot of my system cured the anomaly. (I suspect the APFS on my aging HDD has some occasional problems.) At any rate, things are back to normal — the un-deletable app folder is gone and the re-installation works as expected.

Sorry to clutter this thread with this problem, that likely is unique to my system!

Pathduck

@daniel Oof, those things are terrible. It's like when I visit some sites (Discord or some Google services for instance) they just love to show off their new features by pestering the user with dialogs - "look here, try this new button!" Dismiss, dismiss, got it, fine, close.

It's the same in video games, through the first hours of the game, a constant spamming of tutorial dialogs getting in the way. I prefer to investigate UIs in my own time to learn what stuff does, not get it pushed in my face as a barrage of dialog boxes I have to click away.

easyj

Tealing

@daniel said in Same old New Window now opens faster – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3062.3:

Ubuntu (the Linux distribution) uses a mix of Cantarell and Ubuntu (the font) these days. Ideally, Vivaldi would like to use the “system-ui” font on Linux as it does on MacOS and Windows. “system-ui” us a special font name that tells the font rendering system that it should return the system-default UI font. Unfortunately, this is left undefined in most Linux distributions and the upstream FontConfig project leaves it up to the distributions to define it.

Ok. Please consider, if it's even possible, to make a new setting to change these. I don't feel that some kind of CSS hack is the right way to go with this. I mean, it is kind of weird that Vivaldi wants to be a browser that the user can modify in any way possible (with easy UI options) and there's still no options to modify UI text fonts. Thanks.

Tealing

Thanks all for the help. I managed to add custom CSS. Even added 1 more customization I have dreamed for long.

/* Change UI fonts back to what it was before change in 2023-06. */
* { font-family: Ubuntu, system-ui, sans-serif !important; }

/* Remove Vivaldi Menu Button expand arrow. */
#browser:has(.vivaldi-v) {--menuWidth: 34px;}
.vivaldi .expand-arrow {display: none;}

/* Remove "Open new Tab" Button from Tab Bar. */
.newtab {display: none;}

Pathduck

@Tealing said in Same old New Window now opens faster – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3062.3:

display: none

You will learn to love display: none;

adacom

have i missed something - all my JS mods have stopped working - i found this

If you encounter a new issue in this update, please navigate to vivaldi://experiments, temporarily enable the “Disable browser window in portal” option, and see if the problem persists

if i do as instructed then the JS mods work again

Hadden89

@adacom likely js mods relies on the legacy windowing system.

@daniel Why not going with something more interactive?

killchain

What's up with the new animation when going through Speed Dial folders? At first it feels like something is not right (even if I realise that it's because I'm seeing a different animation).

Edit: must've been some sort of a glitch on initial load. Right now the animations look like they did before.

nomadic

@adacom What a scary thing to read

From a quick test it looks like adding the script tags to the window.html instead of browser.html seems to work. Give that a try and see if it works.

Here is an easy bit of JS for testing. It prints "Working" to the UI devTools console:

(function test() {
  setInterval(() => {
    console.log("Working");
  }, 1000);
})();

adacom

@nomadic - well done that works for me - i had tried adding the js calls to main.html but that did not work - your method seems to solve it

olli

@daniel said:

@olli: It’ super-easy to parse! [The] Same old New Window [as before] now opens faster [than before]. Grammarly says it should be comprehendible.
Maybe Grammarly has a bug?

ybjrepnfr

oh goody. this or the previous snappie seems to have again broken the mod to auto-open the panel on hover. time to scour the forum again in hope the clever peeps wot wrote said mod, have had a chance to apply whatever fix is needed.

these routine breakages never stop being fun...

oh sisyphus, my sisyphus.

ybjrepnfr

@ybjrepnfr oh, another goody, yet more delight. this snappie just pulled in another ginormous batch of necro-fetched rss feeds.

such fun.

thomasp

oh goody. this or the previous snappie seems to have again broken the mod to auto-open the panel on hover

@ybjrepnfr assuming this is a JS mod, did you try the solution from @nomadic a few posts above?

From a quick test it looks like adding the script tags to the window.html instead of browser.html seems to work. Give that a try and see if it works.

Hadden89

@Pathduck quite sure the hamburger menu was popularized by android/chrome but come from xerox era (deja vu).
A bordered button (current) is the best way for a menu. The arrow could be made optional with right click.

ybjrepnfr

@thomasp @nomadic Thanks.

The specific mod i've been using is https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/645686, whose code has been contained in my custom.js. That file has been getting called by/from browser.html. It's been working fine for a fair while, til now. Following the cleverness above by @nomadic i tried also pasting that line into window.html as below. It now works again, which is cool, ta.

<body>
    <script src="custom.js"></script>
</body>

However i'm confused & puzzled about this change. It's been several years [or at least it feels that way] that we've been able to mod vivaldi, & ofc the forum has a ginormous humongous thread on the method needed, which i've tried my best to follow & apply to my snappies over the years. I use a bash-script to automate the file-patching after each snappie update, but it was defeated by this snappie. It patches browser.html with my custom.js, & does not touch window.html ... so the fix i just did now was manually edited.

Is this going to be the new way to patch vivaldi, in which case i'll need to edit my bash-script? Or was this snappie an anomaly, with future snappies still being patchable the "old" way?

Spoiler

oh damn, i'm v tired atm & accidentally used correct punctuation & capitalisation above. too tired to bother fixing it now...

shatnerd5399

I have experienced strange behaviour on two different pcs, with this snapshot and the previous one regarding hiding and showing side panel toolbar.

I have it set to Floating Panel and Auto-Close Inactive Panel. I have mouse gestures to display the bookmark panel, as well as gesture to dispaly the Windows panel.

I use either gesture, the appropriape panel shows, but if I click something (a bookmark, a tab) in the panel, or even elsewher in the browser, the panel collapses but the Panel side-toolbar never collapses.

I have to manualy press F4 (hide/ show panel) to make it go away. And then on occason, F4 , refuses to do anything at all.

Thot

@shatnerd5399 said in Same old New Window now opens faster – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3062.3:

the panel collapses but the Panel side-toolbar button never collapses.

Same here. Because of this I ticked off „Automatically close when inactive“, and press manually with „F4“.

daniel

@ybjrepnfr said in Same old New Window now opens faster – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3062.3:

oh, another goody, yet more delight. this snappie just pulled in another ginormous batch of necro-fetched rss feeds.
such fun.

Could you please explain what you mean by this? Were your RSS feeds with the refresh interval set to Never fetched anyway?