Solved Vivaldi Webmail reputation system?
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Hi there. I've been using the webmail for a while now and made it my main account for all my daily communication.
I just read about the "reputation system" and it's not fully clear to me.
Does this mean that I'm forced to interact on some kind of social-(crap)-system where I have to interact with other people to keep my current account? I'm not a big fan of social-media. I'm already losing braincells thinking about it. See at the current state the western world is in thanks to social-media-enginering.
Don't get me wrong. I stand behind the decision of the vivaldi-team regarding this and I fully understand the motives. However, I'm not planning to do any social-crap to keep my current vivaldi-email.
I moved to vivaldi for the ease of use and the privacy messures you're implementing, not to interact with other people just for the sake of interacting with others. It'll be a lot of work, but I will move to a different mail-provider if this is will be enforced. Please let me know.
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@jrkl said in Vivaldi Webmail reputation system?:
I just read about the "reputation system" and it's not fully clear to me.
Seems you missed the part which says
All accounts that already had access to Vivaldi Webmail prior to 4 May 2023 will continue to have access. No action from you is required.
Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 6.1.3035.3
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@jrkl said in Vivaldi Webmail reputation system?:
I just read about the "reputation system" and it's not fully clear to me.
Seems you missed the part which says
All accounts that already had access to Vivaldi Webmail prior to 4 May 2023 will continue to have access. No action from you is required.
Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 6.1.3035.3
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@TbGbe said in Vivaldi Webmail reputation system?:
Seems you missed the part which says
All accounts that already had access to Vivaldi Webmail prior to 4 May 2023 will continue to have access. No action from you is required.
No, no:
... but will need to start building a reputation to use Vivaldi Webmail like all new users.
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@jrkl Oh, are you saying you have an "unverified account"?
Then you could try contacting Vivaldi as the announcement states.Edit: Activity on this forum can improve your "reputation" if you don't want to interact on "social media".
What is unclear/unstated is how much "reputation" you need
I'll give you one more anyway.
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What do you mean with "Unverified account"? I had to click on a link to verify that it was me in another mail-account (other than vivaldi). Only then I was able to use the email. So I have no idea how my account is not verified. Do you maybe know where I can see if it's verified or not?
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@jrkl From the article
If you have an older account, but for one reason or another didn’t verify your phone number, you will be able to create a blog but will need to start building a reputation to use Vivaldi Webmail like all new users.
Which I believe means your account was verified by SMS to your phone number.
If you have an account from before phone number verification was introduced, then contact Vivaldi and they will help you.
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@jrkl said in Vivaldi Webmail reputation system?:
What do you mean with "Unverified account"? I had to click on a link to verify that it was me in another mail-account (other than vivaldi). Only then I was able to use the email. So I have no idea how my account is not verified. Do you maybe know where I can see if it's verified or not?
@thomasp has already clarified in this other thread that there is nothing you need to do in that case: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/86517/we-ve-rolled-out-two-factor-authentication-for-vivaldi-accounts-and-a-new-reputation-system-for-vivaldi-webmail-access/33
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@jrkl I don't think the whole matter will affect too much old users or with an active webmail.
Btw, the rep system likely will consider forum activity (has the user ever posted? has been flagged for spam? is inactive for a long time?) and very other few constraints (has ever sent/received mails?). -
@pauloaguia Thanks
Quote thomasp:
Ah yes, that might be a bit confusing. To be clear, if you already had access to webmail (whether through verifying your phone number, or through having registered your account before we implemented the phone verification requirement), that will not change.
Would have been easier to edit and clarify it explicitly in the original blog-post to try to avoid confusion and posts like this.
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@Hadden89 I had to be sure it wouldn't affect me. If I want to change my main email, I have to visit many websites and change the email address there. It's a lot of work, but I will do it if needed.
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@jrkl The doubt was legit... In the worst case the team can solve a wrongly unverified account, but I don't think will happen at all for active forum users which already have the webmail in usage.
One scenario which could trigger the unverified could be: an user registered one year ago to all services but never posted or used any of them (forum, sync, blog, mail...)
