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    Workspace fixes – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2978.3

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      TbGbe @jaunny
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      @jaunny Well, most likely a newcomer who thinks they have a useful idea and wants to be sure it's noticed.

      Also, most likely, not a native English speaker who thought their "local language" forum would just be ignored.

      Unfortunately, they don't realise that one thread is enough on these forums (unlike some other forums/platforms that they may be more familiar with).

      Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 7.5.3725.3

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      g4uol @jaunny
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      @jaunny It's because workspaces are a brilliant concept and working 100% without backups would be great.

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      KoreshS @g_bartsch
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      @g_bartsch What do you think about the idea of using workspaces for a separate window. I.e. each window is a separate workspace. The peculiarity is that they can be pined or not pined.
      I posted a large screenshot on page 3, completed in Photoshop, with this idea.

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      g_bartsch @KoreshS
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      @KoreshS said in Workspace fixes – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2978.3:

      What do you think about the idea of using workspaces for a separate window.

      Thank you; I am, and love Workspaces! They are wonderful.

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      KoreshS @KoreshS
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      @KoreshS You don't understand. My idea has a general look in pinned workspaces. But my idea differs in that in the screenshot you have the loose windows combined into one workspace in the first position. I suggest showing the loose windows in the list as separate elements of the list in several positions. Try opening several windows. If several windows are not saved as workspace, then they are all in the first item. Check it out. But in your screenshot there are just 4 tabs. which is not a revision of the developers.

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      trit34 @KoreshS
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      @KoreshS said in Workspace fixes – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2978.3:

      @g_bartsch What do you think about the idea of using workspaces for a separate window. I.e. each window is a separate workspace.

      This is basically using multiple windows, and opening tabs on each of them. All browsers can do it from the beginning.

      I don’t really understand what is your idea, exactly (perhaps because English is not my native language).

      Or do you suggest that each window should have its own list of workspaces?

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      g_bartsch @trit34
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      @trit34 said in Workspace fixes – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2978.3:

      I don’t really understand what is your idea, exactly (perhaps because English is not my native language).

      I'm sorry, I tried to read and understand your idea but wasn't able to. It may be a good idea but I haven't been able to grasp it yet. ☹

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      KoreshS @g_bartsch
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      @g_bartsch Let's look at the list of workspaces carefully. We will see that in this list there is a gray line separating the list. My idea concerns what is above this line. In the current state above the line there is an element containing tabs of the current window of the not saved workspace. I suggest that not one element is displayed above the line, but all the elements of unsaved windows in the workspaces. That's what I showed in the screenshot. Look at him carefully.

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      @KoreshS said in Workspace fixes – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2978.3:

      @g_bartsch What do you think about the idea of using workspaces for a separate window. I.e. each window is a separate workspace.

      This is what sessions do already.

      https://github.com/sjudenim

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      KoreshS @sjudenim
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      @sjudenim You say it's in sessions, it doesn't matter. Here we are discussing the convenience of working with spaces and windows. If there is something in common with sessions, then so be it.
      @trit34

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      I believe that the current implementation is incomplete to the end. It is for this reason that it will be difficult for beginners and people unfamiliar with PCs to understand the idea of workspaces. My idea makes a simpler understanding of workspaces and makes a complete idea of workspaces. I want to note that I think this is a very important question, and I am sure that this is a very very important idea, and therefore it is necessary to create a test version with my idea so that it is clear that this is a very important revision.

      I really don't know English well. I'm translating text Yandex translator in English, and then I translate English Google translator back. Checking the translation. And conditionally I think that the translation was correct.

      But I ask all developers to get into my idea. And I urge that this is a very important revision.

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      KoreshS I may be considered a "beginner" compared to many of the people who post here on this forum, and I find everything about Workspaces very easy to understand just as they are. If I understand what you are suggesting, and speaking just for myself, I don't think having "unsaved windows" appearing as workspaces would be helpful to me in the way I use them. Just me, though.

      But I would find the ability to delete multiple workspaces at one time helpful (cntrl/click/del?)
      One at a time PLUS that annoying confirmation pop-up is so tedious

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      KoreshS @jaunny
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      @jaunny I'm also new to this forum. But I'm talking about other newbies. I'm talking about pensioners, doctors, mechanics, . These people generally have little experience with PCs. These people spend very little time on the Internet. But there are a lot of these people. These people do not know at all how the browser differs from the Internet. These people are more than 50% of the population.

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      mib2berlin Soprano @KoreshS
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      @KoreshS
      Hi, it maybe better to make a request in the feature request forum part, these snapshot tread are closed after a week or so and nobody can vote for it.
      https://forum.vivaldi.net/category/185/desktop-feature-requests
      By the way, this 50% does not even know what a browser is, not really the typical Vivaldi user.

      Cheers, mib

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      KoreshS @mib2berlin
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      @mib2berlin You are right, these 50% are not typical users for Vivaldi. So because they are not typical, that Vivaldi do not take them into account. Vivaldi can't compete with Chrome in what Chrome is strong for. Vivaldi has its strengths.

      And I try to make the new feature available to most people. Thanks for the advice.

      Is it required that people vote for my proposal? After all, people voted for workspaces without seeing them. Maybe my proposal should be looked at by developers?

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      mib2berlin Soprano @KoreshS
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      Hi again, the developer rarely read the forum but they check the feature requests.
      The original feature request got a lot of votes: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/56898/function-of-workspaces-as-in-the-new-opera

      By the way, I've given up recommending Vivaldi to Windows users who don't know what Windows Explorer is. They should rather use Edge then. 🙂

      Cheers, mib

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      barbudo2005
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      @Ruarí

      Are Workspaces a "kind" of Windows?

      Could you explain in a simple way how they work?

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      mib2berlin Soprano @barbudo2005
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      @barbudo2005
      Hi, maybe you miss the description in the first workspaces thread from @Ruarí :

      https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/85072/workspaces-vivaldi-browser-snapshot-2970-3#:~:text=13-,Ruarí,-VIVALDI TEAM

      Some reading fun until the team get back to work on Tuesday.

      Cheers, mib

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      barbudo2005 @mib2berlin
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      @mib2berlin
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      maybe you miss the description in the first workspaces thread from @Ruarí

      I read it.

      I would like to know if workspaces are a "kind" of windows that are not displayed in taskbar tile.

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      sjudenim Supporters @barbudo2005
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      @barbudo2005

      Workspaces are very similar to tab stacks, but instead of tabs(web pages) being nestled in a single tab, they are saved to appear as their own tab bar

      Sessions saves tabs within a window so when you open those you will be opening multiple windows.

      So to answer question, no. Workspaces will appear as a single window in your taskbar since only 1 instance of Vivaldi is open, unlike with sessions which will have multiple instances of Vivaldi in the taskbar.

      https://github.com/sjudenim

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      sjudenim Supporters @KoreshS
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      @KoreshS said in Workspace fixes – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2978.3:

      @sjudenim You say it's in sessions, it doesn't matter. Here we are discussing the convenience of working with spaces and windows. If there is something in common with sessions, then so be it.
      @trit34

      It does matter since your suggestion is convoluting features. Besides, currently workspaces are not saved as windows so stating if they are saved or not as such is inaccurate. If you want saved windows, that's what sessions do. Pointing this out is to help familiarize you with the browser

      https://github.com/sjudenim

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