5.6.x | Missing after install
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Just installed Vivaldi 5.6.2867.58-1 on Fedora Workstation 37, but I don't see it in my repository list.
I downloaded the RPM package from Vivaldi website and installed it via terminal following the instructions on this page. I can see Vivaldi in my installed apps list in Gnome Software Center, but I don't see it anywhere in my repository list.
I've seen a fairly recent comment in another thread that the traditional method of manually setting up the Vivaldi repository for specifix distro is now discouraged because of some other issue, and the RPM (or deb) package should automatically configure the Vivaldi repository. Maybe this is why I don't see it in my repository list? Is there any other way I can verify if I have the Vivaldi repository?
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Update: After some observation, I found out that the RPM package also installed a script in etc/cron.daily that supposedly installs the Vivaldi repository. The problem is that I'm not sure the cron service is installed in Fedora 37 because if I type "systemctl status crond.service" in terminal, the output I get is "Unit crond.service could not be found".
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Update 2: After scrutinizing the aforementioned cron script a bit more, I've noticed that the repo file it is configured to install in yum.repos.d is "vivaldi.repo". However, when looking in repo.vivaldi.com, I couldn't find it. I only found "vivaldi-fedora.repo" and "vivaldi-suse.repo".
So it seems to me the RPM package barely receives any testing (if not at all), especially after I've read that Fedora has stopped shipping the cron service at least a few versions ago, the very thing which that script depends on to install the Vivaldi repository and keys. -
@user1vivaldi Thanks for the hint with the script under:
/etc/cron.daily/vivaldi
I ran the script as root, so I should stay up to date from now on?
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@user1vivaldi @tri
Hi, I am on Opensuse and use the .rpm packages but I use the RPM commandrpm -ihv vivaldi ...rpm
, it add Vivaldi to my repository list.
No idea if this work on Fedora but may you check if the next update fails.Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin @tri Thanks, I may check that out. Also, just to be clear, you can still install the cron service on Fedora via the "cronie" package, which should periodically run that script, however I've read there are some steps needed to setup cronie after installation which I still don't know about. (I also don't know if running it once manually as root is enough). I mean it sits in "cron.daily" folder, so that probably means it's meant to be run daily.
But nevertheless, I think the way the RPM package works needs to be changed. Lets say a less experienced Linux user follows that guide which I followed and then he will have no idea why he doesn't receive Vivaldi updates. For example, Systemd.timers are considered a modern Cron replacement.
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@user1vivaldi
Iirc there was a discussion about changing the description for Linux installs, maybe @DoctorG have information about.Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin I do not have any information on needs to change description of Linux Help page for user-install update.
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@user1vivaldi The please report the issue on Fedora 37 with repo and if cron is missing to Vivaldi bug tracker. Once that is done, share the bug number (beginning with VB-). Thanks for helping us making Vivaldi better.
Unfortunatly i can not confirm for Fedora, i am running Debians/Ubuntus.
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@DoctorG Done. VB-94717