Frequently requested fixes – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2883.3

[Vort]

@Operanix said in Frequently requested fixes – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2883.3:

In that snapshot the browser window appears to be bigger then the screen.

Looks like developers have tradition to make fresh annoying bugs in every snapshot.

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Even not taking glitch with maximized window size into account, borders still have problems:
Top left corner have only shadow. Round shadow below square edge.

Bottom right corner have in addition blue border 1 pixel in size.

[paul1149]

The previous snapshot (or perhaps the one just before it) had the address bar autocomplete perfect for my use. Now it's back to the old behavior I was hoping to lose.

The problem is with bookmark shortcuts. I have a bookmark with the shortcut "aa". I have another with the shortcut "aap". When I type "aa" in the address bar, I expect the "aa" bookmark to be targeted when I hit Enter. But instead, the "aap" bookmark is activated.

The autocomplete is too greedy, and it is nonsensical. If autocomplete has a conflicting claim on what the user has typed into the address bar, preference should always go to the shorter exact match. If the user wants otherwise, he will type until either he achieves a unique leader, or as the field of suggestions narrows down he will select the desired target with the down arrow or the mouse.

[AltCode]

[Sync][Bookmarks] Synchronize custom bookmark thumbnail metadata (VB-93139)

What do you guys mean with "thumbnail metadata", does this mean that thumbnails will finally be synced as well?

[Davy49]

I'm SO very glad for this snapshot forum for many reasons with the main one at least for me is being able to communicate not only with other snapshot users but also with members of the vivaldi development team as well as team members both to share ideas as well as share comments about items that are still not functioning as expected.
David

[DoctorG]

@AltCode said in Frequently requested fixes – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2883.3:

does this mean that thumbnails will finally be synced as well

No. sync of thumsnails do not work. As i was told in the past, the data size of many thumbnails would cost too much traffic and storage on Sync servers.

[zoli62]

The drop-down list containing the visited websites has returned to the address bar. I thought it would remain as it is in Chrome, i.e. it would be missing, but fortunately this useful feature has returned.
Any idea what caused this feature to disappear for a few snapshot releases? I know that Vivaldi differs from Chrome in many ways, but it is still based on it.

[AltCode]

@DoctorG said in Frequently requested fixes – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2883.3:

As i was told in the past, the data size of many thumbnails would cost too much traffic and storage on Sync servers.

Frankly, I now find this hard to believe, seeing how the Vivaldi Team is now hosting their Mastodon server Vivaldi Social.

I'm not sure how large the thumbnails of other people are, but Vivaldi Social allows uploading videos that will surely be much larger than any single user profile with bookmarks that all have their own thumbnail.

Let's say that a single user has ~200 bookmarks, with only around half of those having a custom thumbnail that is on average ~50KB large, that would a total of ~5MB would be needed to sync and store the custom thumbnails. And these thumbnails will not have to constantly be reuploaded and redownloaded so often, only when a user sets sync on a new device, or updates one of their thumbnails.

Now let's consider Vivaldi Social, which allows uploading media that can be as large as 15MB, here's an example of that: https://social.vivaldi.net/@VaderMcFly/109527972721101000

Note, this is bigger than the 8MB size limit imposed on themes uploaded to Vivaldi Themes.

Let's also consider that many people, let's say around 20% of Vivaldi Social users (so about 3.4K of the current 17K active users), will constantly be uploading media that is ~30KB in size every two days. That means it would need around ~50MB to support all that uploaded media (plus the occasional 15MB sized files that may be uploaded).

That really makes me wonder how the Vivaldi Team is justifying the costs of traffic and storage of media files in the Vivaldi Social servers as acceptable, but not a hypothetical syncing of thumbnails for sync servers.

[DoctorG]

@AltCode I fear i had not explained precise enuff.
I was told last year about why missing thumbs in sync of bookmarks, now i do not know the reason, perhaps sync of thumbs is not completely implemented yet.
If you need, i ask internally a sync admin.

//EDIT:
I excuse to have caused irritation!

Sync dev said in internal chat some minutes ago that sync of thumbs is in the pipeline, but not ready yet.
But sync of thumbs metadata is one of the first steps in this process.

[Gregor]

Same here - left and right edge cut:

also this white line

[Fukurokudzu]

One more thing, not sure if it's known issue, but it's there for a long time already. "Mark as read" button in Mail is greyed out if you open email message from notifications or via menu bar bottom of the screen

Windows 11, V 5.7.2883.3

[wetware05]

@ruarí said:

@wetware05: We test on snapshot and if it works without issue, it will be backported to stable.

That is actually the entire point of snapshot, just to test for stable.@ruarí:

I think a wheel with a patch is preferable than a flat tire

[wetware05]

@mib2berlin: Thanks, I followed your advice and restarted Vivaldi. The error has been corrected (It is difficult to make the decision to restart, due to all the subsequent work —customize some extensions, readjust some things in the configuration, "log in" to the platforms again...—)

[Ruarí]

@wetware05 Every fix comes with a potential to break something else (and frequently does). These is no sense in taking fixes like this straight to stable if one can avoid it.

Snapshots are for testing only. It is not an extra stream, even if many use it like that.

[TbGbe]

@Ruarí said in Frequently requested fixes – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2883.3:

It is not an extra stream, even if many use it like that.

[Preorian]

@DoctorG said in Frequently requested fixes – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2883.3:

Sync dev said in internal chat some minutes ago that sync of thumbs is in the pipeline, but not ready yet.

Could you tell them that FIRST add an option to disable bookmark thumbnails completely?

[Preorian]

Quality of Vivaldi (both snapshots & stable) is decreasing. Now my snapshot, after this release, crashes instantly when opening it. Tried to remove sessions files so that V starts with no tabs but it doesn't help, instant crash, in less than second, I can see the gui but then it crashes. Don't want to clear my settings/profile completely. Is there any crash logs anywhere to try to analyse what is going wrong?

[derDay]

@Preorian
rename your profile folder default to something else and start again

[Preorian]

@derDay Is that really the only option?! Isn't there any crash logs or something? It's PITA to start all over with everything. It shouldn't be like that.. at least there should be some logs to try to investigate what is going on. How else people could report some problem like this, especially with snapshots?

[Zalex108]

@Preorian

Hi,
Look whether there's something here
https://peter.sh/experiments/chromium-command-line-switches/

On the other side,
Suggestion:

Create a Profile as Template
Update it "frequently", depending on the daily changes, every 6 months would be enough.

Make a copy of that one and run it as your common profile.
If something goes so wrong to force a reset, just copy back from the Template and add the Sessions and any other small change.

Back up both Profiles as frequent as you prefer to avoid spend time resetting or looking for problems.

Using Snap versions means take all this more in count than on Stable.

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"Off Topic Tip"
Follow the Signature's Backup | Reset link.
Take the opportunity to start a Backup plan and even create a Template Profile.

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Windows 7 (x64)
Vivaldi Backup | Reset + Extra Steps

[TbGbe]

@Preorian said in Frequently requested fixes – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2883.3:

Isn't there any crash logs or something?

See https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/troubleshoot/reporting-crashes-on-windows/

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