Adobe-Flash… accept no substitutes?



  • Sadly, after months of occasional tweaking (and reverting to Firefox) I still need some basic configuration info, I think. This Fedora/KDE user would still like to see some things (non-porn) that use Adobe-Flash. I've heard about the Pepper Flash Player, but it doesn't seem to exist as a Chrome extensions list or in the Fedora repos. When I tried to re-install the Adobe Flash player, Vivaldi doesn't seem to recognize it's existence. Is there a setting, or something like Firefox's about:config that must be configured? Is there a hidden Vivaldi directory that needs a link to the flash player or something like that?





  • Sorry Rock. The very first thing the script does is download Chrome, which is something I don't want to do.
    However, I'm really confused about Vivaldi not knowing that Adobe Flash is installed. It's possible it's doing something pernicious; It knows Flash is installed, but is reporting that it isn't all the way back to the site requiring it.



  • @jbuckley2004:

    Sorry Rock. The very first thing the script does is download Chrome, which is something I don't want to do.
    However, I'm really confused about Vivaldi not knowing that Adobe Flash is installed. It's possible it's doing something pernicious; It knows Flash is installed, but is reporting that it isn't all the way back to the site requiring it.

    Actually you are doing something pernicious installing Chrome. :evil:

    You need the PPAPI flash player. So sayng that Opera 12 or Mozzilla (NPAPI flash player) or Chrome (embedded flash player) are working, means absolutely nothing.

    Download the right one and Vivaldi,the current Opera, Chromium and so on, will work as well



  • Well, thanks The_Solutor. But it appears that I already downloaded and installed exactly that version of flash (and no, I'm NOT installing Chrome on principle!). I can tell 'cause Adobe's telling me so (here https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/index.html) and it's another copy of the one I downloaded and installed this morning (21.0.0.213). (and Fedora's rpm install command tells me it's the same thing. B) )
    The problem remains that Vivaldi doesn't recognize that Adobe-Flash is there, so apparently several levels of software are telling me it's a configuration thing (and I wouldn't understand…).

    Yeah, that's an old joke.

    Question, though. I thought the latest version of adobe for Linux was 11.2. That doesn't apply to Chrome or Chromium??? Just askin'.



  • @jbuckley2004:

    Question, though. I thought the latest version of adobe for Linux was 11.2. That doesn't apply to Chrome or Chromium??? Just askin'.

    Not sure about the version number anyway, yes Chrome comes with its own embedded flash player.

    Chromium relies on the external one as any other browser (vivaldi included)

    In short all the matter is not so complex. You need just a single file "libpepflashplayer.so" placed in the right place

    The right place may vary depending the distro

    Vivaldi looks for it in the following places

    **/opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash/
    /usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/
    /usr/lib/PepperFlash/
    /usr/lib/chromium/PepperFlash/
    /usr/lib64/chromium/PepperFlash/
    /usr/lib/pepflashplugin-installer/
    /usr/lib/chromium-browser/PepperFlash/
    /usr/lib64/chromium-browser/PepperFlash/
    **

    If your flash player lib is not there just copy (or link) libpepflashplayer.so taking it from the filesystem (if insalled elsewhere) or from any updated rpm

    just use mc (midnight commander) to dive inside the rpm (you can use also a deb package in the same way if you have dpkg installed)

    There are obviously other ways to reach the same result, but this one is the most newbie friendly IMO)



  • @jbuckley2004:

    Sorry Rock. The very first thing the script does is download Chrome, which is something I don't want to do.
    However, I'm really confused about Vivaldi not knowing that Adobe Flash is installed. It's possible it's doing something pernicious; It knows Flash is installed, but is reporting that it isn't all the way back to the site requiring it.

    Yes the script download chrome, than extract it and only copy the libpepflashplayer.so to /opt/google/chrome/PepperFlash. That is one way to get pepperflash running if it is not avaible in repo.



  • I tried the script, and it seems to have worked! Thanks for that, RocknRoll. (Oh, and for future reference, there seems to have been no unwanted side-effects for this Fedora/KDE user.)

    To The_Solutor: that was informative. However, googling "libpepflashplayer.so" led me in circles. The links shown up front lead, ultimately, to Adobe's site(s), and their download forcibly gave me the 11.0 version (which, I believe, is the NPAPI version used by Firefox). Every time I extracted it, I was "informed" that it was ALREADY installed. Duh! The script that Rock pointed to downloaded and installed the 21.0.0.216 version, which works now.

    BTW; major frustration ensues when techies don't put dates on their sites. I believe The Donald has said he will make this a capital offense the day after inauguration.

    Thanks to you both for the assist.



  • @jbuckley2004:

    To The_Solutor: that was informative. However, googling "libpepflashplayer.so" led me in circles..

    Obviously you don have to look for the file, but for the package (.rpm, .deb, tgz….)

    If you want to grab vivaldi exe from somewhere you don't google for vivaldi.exe, you google for vivaldi setup, right?

    Here it's just the same



  • Some alternatives for Fedora without installing any other browser (additional repositories may be required upon your choice though):

    Fedora Opera Russia repositories

    Besides Opera (duh) it contains in a separate package the latest version of pepper flash on rpm package, which also works for Vivaldi.

    Enable the repository:

    su -c 'dnf install --nogpgcheck http://mirror.yandex.ru/fedora/russianfedora/russianfedora/free/fedora/russianfedora-free-release-stable.noarch.rpm http://mirror.yandex.ru/fedora/russianfedora/russianfedora/nonfree/fedora/russianfedora-nonfree-release-stable.noarch.rpm'
    

    Verify signing keys:

    http://russianfedora.pro/repository#gpg-keys

    Install latest pepper flash:

    dnf install chromium-pepper-flash
    

    One More Option: install native H.264 support

    You can follow this link for further instructions, this will enable most of the streaming and animations out there without installing flash at all. If you're going to install on the stable version, follow the "beta" instructions, and don't forget to check the latest version on the repos out there. Instructions were made for V48.x but now there is support for V49.x

    Edit: As a side note, you may need to repeat the H.264 installation process whenever you update Vivaldi, but given the fact the stable version pace is slow, it shouldn't be much of a bother



  • well, this newbie still doesn't quite get it….

    i get the Adobe error message when trying to play any video from a link

    where exactly do i get the file that is supposed to fix this, and where exactly do I insert the file on my Macbook Air?

    I just now downloaded and installed this latest Vivaldi version, 1.1.453.47 (Stable channel) (64-bit)




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