New tab opens as tiled (click-open from tiled tab in stack)
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When I have tiled tabs inside a tab stack and I open a link from one of them as a new tab, the new tab opens as new tiled tab (inside this tab stack).
I really don't like this - I'd like new tab to be open within the tab stack, but without tiling. Unfortunatelly I can't find (nor google) any related setting. Is this forced non-optional behavior or am I just blind?
Details:
- If I have tiled tabs outside a tab stack, than it doesn't happen (new tab opens as a new tab in the background, no tiling)
- it doesn't matter how I open the link in a new tab (gesture, key+click, right-click menu...)
- it doesn't matter how many tabs are tiled
- it doesn't matter if the tab stack contains non-tiled tabs as well or not...
- ...nor it matters the relative position of tiled tabs within tiling nor within the stack
- I use 2 level tabs
- I don't use any extensions/plugins which would affect tiling or any other tab behavior in any way
- Windows 10
- last version of Vivaldi (but the issue goes on for some time and several versions, I was just too lazy to come here to ask about it)
If this is a forced behavior, I'll be happy to request change.
Thnaks for help / answers, sorry if I missed something really obvious.
EDIT:
- Feature request for bug fix: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/79627/option-for-new-tabs-opened-from-tiled-stackes-not-to-be-tiled
- Feature request for untile selection within tab stack: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/79628/make-untile-selection-work-within-tab-stacks
- Feature request for untile selection command accessibility: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/79626/make-untile-selection-command-accessible-from-shortuts-and-chains
- bug report: VB-91887
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@sirien-neiris Drag the link and drop it onto the new tab button.
Otherwise, in Settings Tabs, Tab Stacking, disable
Open Tabs in Current Tab Stack -
@Pesala draging the link would be a work-around, not really comfortable one; besides it doesn't work - it opens the tab outside the tab stack (even when I drop it on the 2nd level + button)
And i DO want the tab to be opened inside the current tab stack - I just DON'T want it to be tiled.
thank you for the suggestions, but neither of these options solves my issue.
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@sirien-neiris It is not hard to drag a link to the New Tab button. If you want to stack it with the previously tiled tab stack, just drag the new tab and drop it onto the stack.
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@sirien-neiris Hi - there exists no solution for this, as it's working as intended and there is no option to change the behaviour. There are only workarounds for now.
I suggest using a Command Chain like this:
This uses the Untile Tabs command but only applies it to the current tab.
Then map this chain to a hotkey and press this to remove only the current tab from tiling. One more step than just opening it but it's a workaround.
Maybe in the future an option will come or you can make a feature suggestion.
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If I wanted to be told by others what is easy, hard or (un)comfortable for me, I'd be using we-know-better-whats-good-for-you Apple Safari, not have-it-your-way Vivaldi.
I don't believe you understand my problem - I want tab opening from tiled tabs in stack to behave the same way as opening from tiled tabs outside of stack - to just open a new tab, without tiling, but inside the stack - so the tab remains within its intended workspace, but doesn't force itself into my intentional tiling.
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@Pathduck ok... that seems at least usable, I haven't yet used chains, but there is a first time for everything... thanks. I'll make the feature request.
EDIT: it still ruins manual changes in tiled tab width. But still, better than nothing.
May I ask, how is this INTENDED behavior? Why is it intended for stacked tiled tabs to behave differently than non-stacked tiled tabs? And why is it even intended for new tabs to be forced into tiling? It just feels weird.
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@sirien-neiris said in New tab opens as tiled (click-open from tiled tab in stack):
May I ask, how is this INTENDED behavior? Why is it intended for stacked tiled tabs to behave differently than non-stacked tiled tabs?
By intended, I guess I mean "That's just how it works" - i.e. it's not a bug, just a missing feature. Like I said, maybe one day an option will come, until then use workarounds.
I found out my command chain does not work very well either.
For one thing, it seems that in stacks "Select current tab" will select all stacked tabs. And then "Untile Tabs" will untile all. I just tested with 2 tiled tabs earlier and mistakenly thought it worked, sorry.
Another issue is that "Untile Selection" is missing from Command Chains. Command Chains are still WIP I guess.
For now another workaround is Ctrl+click the current, tiled tab, right-click and choose "Untile Selection". That seems to work.
EDIT; Not sure the Ctrl+click step is needed, Untile Selection on the current tab should remove it from the tiling.
EDIT:
Why is it intended for stacked tiled tabs to behave differently than non-stacked tiled tabs?
Come to think of it, I guess the different behaviours could be argued as being a bug, as it should behave the same way for consistency. So I guess reporting a bug is an option, no idea how it will be received though...
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@Pathduck No; the problem doesn't seem to be the selection by "select current tab" within the tab stack, the problem seems to be the 2nd command: "Untile Tabs", which simply untiles the whole tiled group, no matter the selection (it does the same outside the stack, it seems to be the same command as "untile tabs" which is under default ctrl+F6 shortcut).
I'm afraid the "untile this tab" command is not available - respectively, the "untile selection" command available from right-click on tab is not accessible from anywhere else. That might be simple issue to solve, I'll rise request for that as well. Thanks for directing me to this.
Since the behavior is different inside and outside of tab stack, I'll report it as a bug as well.
(ctrl+click is not needed, "untile selection" works fine - it's just the uncomfortable additional step I was trying to remove from my workflow )
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@sirien-neiris said in New tab opens as tiled (click-open from tiled tab in stack):
Since the behavior is different inside and outside of tab stack, I'll report it as a bug as well.
It is not a bug. If you enabled the setting to open new tabs in the same stack, that is what will happen. If the tabs are tiled, the new tab will also be tiled.
Untiling a single tab in a stack does not seem to work, whether it has a dotted selection rectangle or not. Tile selected tabs works fine. (I use accordion tabs. I have not thorough tested with two-level tab stacking).
Are you sure that my workaround is harder than other available methods? Do try each method a few times to test it. Drag, Drop, drag, drop seems easy to me. No keyboard action is needed.
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@Pathduck I've created the requests:
- https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/79627/option-for-new-tabs-opened-from-tiled-stackes-not-to-be-tiled
- https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/79626/make-untile-selection-command-accessible-from-shortuts-and-chains
EIDT: and bug report: VB-91887 /EDIT
Thanks for your time and help.
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@Pesala yeah, I'm pretty sure, I know my workflow very well and I know what fits me and what not. And I'm pretty sure that when the same things behaves differently it is a bug.
But you are right, Untile selection doesn't work, because it is for some reason not available in tab stacks This is turning into some tab stack rabbit hole
EDIT: I've added this one as well: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/79628/make-untile-selection-work-within-tab-stacks