Solved Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (Resolved!)
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Do you want Smooth Scrolling?
Disable built-in and use the extension Chromium Wheel Smooth Scroller:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chromium-wheel-smooth-scr/khpcanbeojalbkpgpmjpdkjnkfcgfkhb
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@barbudo2005 said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing?:
Do you want Smooth Scrolling?
Disable built-in and use the extension Chromium Wheel Smooth Scroller:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chromium-wheel-smooth-scr/khpcanbeojalbkpgpmjpdkjnkfcgfkhb
I'd still like to know what Vivaldi's Smooth Scrolling setting even does.
Besides, I don't like that extension because it doesn't allow reversing the scroll direction whilst a scroll is in progress. It's also laggy as hell on some pages (e.g., imdb.com), as all smooth scroll extensions seem to be (only extensions though - the chromium smooth scroll flag isn't laggy, nor is Firefox).
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@Aelius Probably nothing if the default scrolling work fine. I also never felt any improvement with the option on.
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@Hadden89 said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing?:
@Aelius Probably nothing if the default scrolling work fine. I also never felt any improvement with the option on.
So, to be clear, you're suggesting that Vivaldi's smooth scrolling setting does literally absolutely nothing?
Surely I can't be the only one who thinks this is strange?
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@Aelius Smooth scroll is usually enabled by default on chromium/vivaldi because it may help with some particular or unconfigured devices but is also not mandatory at all to have a smooth scroll at the point you couldn't feel the difference.
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@Hadden89 said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing?:
@Aelius Smooth scroll is usually enabled by default on chromium/vivaldi because it may help with some particular or unconfigured devices but is also not mandatory at all to have a smooth scroll at the point you couldn't feel the difference.
But I'm not talking about whether it's enabled by default or whether it's mandatory. I'm talking about what it even does.
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@Hadden89 said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (still unresolved after 7 posts):
Forgive me, but I'm unclear what relevance that blog post is. I use Vivaldi, not Chrome, and nothing in that blog post explains why Vivaldi's smooth scrolling setting seems to do nothing.
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@Aelius Vivaldi is based on chromium [engine] on which also chrome is built and the smooth scrolling is inherited from chrom*. The article explain the feature is on by default via the CSS/JS values specified from the sites. Disabling it could help in very rare cases with few devices or just not doing anything
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@Hadden89 said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (still unresolved after 9 posts):
@Aelius Vivaldi is based on chromium [engine] on which also chrome is built and the smooth scrolling is inherited from chrom*. The article explain the feature is on by default via the CSS/JS values specified from the sites. Disabling it could help in very rare cases with few devices or just not doing anything
Except the Chromium smooth scroll is a different thing entirely. That's a flag in Vivaldi://flags, which is different than the Smooth Scroll setting in Vivaldi's settings.
Besides which, even if it was the same thing, that doesn't resolve the question of why it doesn't seem to do anything. If I understand you, you're suggesting that some websites might disable smooth scroll functionality, except I've yet to come across a website for which the setting in question has done anything. Perhaps you are aware of some I could test?
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@Aelius said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (still unresolved after 11 posts):
Except the Chromium smooth scroll is a different thing entirely.
Yes. The smooth scroll function is based on the UI code, and Chromium UI and Vivaldi UI are different (very different) things entirely.
That said, smooth scrolling vs non-smooth scrolling are VASTLY different here. Smooth is smooth, and non-smooth jumps at least 50 lines for each click of the mouse scroll wheel.
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As a sidenote and a suggestion; it doesn't do editing your original posting in order to underline your impatience and personal frustration with the matter.
"If life seems such a bother, there's something you've forgotten....... just whistle and things turn out for the best. And always look on the bright side of life."
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@Ayespy said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (still unresolved after 11 posts):
@Aelius said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (still unresolved after 11 posts):
Except the Chromium smooth scroll is a different thing entirely.
Yes. The smooth scroll function is based on the UI code, and Chromium UI and Vivaldi UI are different (very different) things entirely.
That said, smooth scrolling vs non-smooth scrolling are VASTLY different here. Smooth is smooth, and non-smooth jumps at least 50 lines for each click of the mouse scroll wheel.
So, any speculation as to why Vivaldi's smooth scrolling seems to do nothing?
@S_Paternotte said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (still unresolved after 11 posts):
As a sidenote and a suggestion; it doesn't do editing your original posting in order to underline your impatience and personal frustration with the matter.
Sorry, you misunderstand. I edit the title not to express impatience and frustration, but because I don't want people to glance at the post count and falsely assume that other people have successfully handled the matter or are in the process of figuring it out. It is human nature to see a crowd of people talking to someone requesting help and assuming that it's being handled. However, you can see by reading the responses so far, there has been no progress solving this mystery, and so I want other people with the ability and desire to help to understand at a glance that their aid is still humbly requested.
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@Aelius I could not guess, offhand, why the setting works for me, but not for you. Here, smooth scrolling is smooth and, with the setting off, scrolling moves in huge, herky-jerky steps.
Maybe some kind of info on what sort of system you are running might begin to provide some insight as to what's going on?
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@Ayespy said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (still unresolved after 14 posts):
@Aelius I could not guess, offhand, why the setting works for me, but not for you. Here, smooth scrolling is smooth and, with the setting off, scrolling moves in huge, herky-jerky steps.
Maybe some kind of info on what sort of system you are running might begin to provide some insight as to what's going on?
You're the first person to actually state whether they can replicate my findings, so thank you for that.
I'm using Windows 10 on a desktop computer with a mouse; no touch screen or track pad. I'm happy to provide other information that might help diagnose this
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@Aelius What sort of processor speed? What kind of RAM capacity and speed? What kind of graphics card? Do you or do you not have Windows animations turned on? What is your screen resolution? Do you have Vivaldi animations turned on or off? Have you ever altered the scroll settings for your mouse in Windows?
Be aware that "smooth" scrolling is an animation. it interpolates intermediate positions for the screen image between the detents on the mouse. If your mouse is set to scroll 5 lines at a time, it "invents" image positions between those five lines to create a smooth appearance. Whether and how that works depends a great deal on your hardware and your hardware settings.
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@Ayespy said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (still unresolved after 14 posts):
@Aelius What sort of processor speed? What kind of RAM capacity and speed? What kind of graphics card? Do you or do you not have Windows animations turned on? What is your screen resolution? Do you have Vivaldi animations turned on or off? Have you ever altered the scroll settings for your mouse in Windows?
So, first thing I should note is that smooth scrolling works fine in Firefox, and even in Vivaldi if I use the Chromium flag instead of Vivaldi's setting. So I would think that puts to rest any concern that this is a hardware, performance, or OS problem, right?
But for the sake of completeness:
i7 5820k, 4GHz
32GB 2400MHz DDR3 RAM
GTX 2080Ti
3440x1440 (but Vivaldi never runs anywhere close to fullscreen)
Vivaldi animations are on
Windows' animations are off, but turning them on doesn't fix Vivaldi's smooth scroll.
I don't remember if I adjusted Windows' scroll settings. It's set to scroll 4 lines at a time, but changing the quantity of lines does not fix the Vivaldi's smooth scroll. -
@Aelius Did you turn smooth scroll on in Vivaldi's settings (not flags)? (I had it turned on in settings, and it worked. Turned it on in flags, no difference)
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@Aelius I also just happened to think - extensions can screw up stuff like this. Do you use extensions?
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@Ayespy said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (still unresolved):
@Aelius Did you turn smooth scroll on in Vivaldi's settings (not flags)?
Yes.
Also, when you try to replicate my problem, do you make sure to set the Chromium smooth scroll flag to Disabled or Default? Because if you leave it Enabled, you'll have smooth scrolling through Chromium and that might lead to you mistakenly think Vivaldi's smooth scrolling is working.
@Aelius I also just happened to think - extensions can screw up stuff like this. Do you use extensions?
Yes, but that's the first thing I tried to disable when I noticed this problem.