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    • janrif
      janrif last edited by janrif

      5.4.2753.3 (Official Build) (64-bit) Clipping web content to Note from web sometimes produces selected information in text and sometimes only produces HTML link w/o note & w/o title. What's up with that?

      Jan Rifkinson
      Ridgefield CT
      Vivaldi 5.8.2970.3 (Official Build) (64-bit)
      Revision 30b06a17761ff3e56dcf487e90e1de7e266a2fc6
      OS Windows 11 Version 22H2 (Build 23419.1000)

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      • DoctorG
        DoctorG - Ambassador - @janrif last edited by

        @janrif Please, can i have a example and a few steps to reproduce it?

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        • janrif
          janrif @DoctorG last edited by

          @DoctorG said in Inconsistent clipping web to Note:

          @janrif Please, can i have a example and a few steps to reproduce it?

          @DoctorG The steps are:
          select data from webpage
          copy to note

          Text Example: you see selected material
          2022-08-01 10.26.26 forum.vivaldi.net 20f469815a35.png

          HTML Example: you see blank note w image & no title
          2022-08-01 10.24.06 forum.vivaldi.net 2bd8a07fd765.jpg

          And in the same area Capturing to Note doesn't produce anything

          HTH. Thank you for your interest

          Jan Rifkinson
          Ridgefield CT
          Vivaldi 5.8.2970.3 (Official Build) (64-bit)
          Revision 30b06a17761ff3e56dcf487e90e1de7e266a2fc6
          OS Windows 11 Version 22H2 (Build 23419.1000)

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          • DoctorG
            DoctorG - Ambassador - @janrif last edited by

            @janrif Copying raw text or HTML formatted content works for me with 5.4.2753.3 Win 11.

            Do you have a special webpage where this happens.

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            • janrif
              janrif @DoctorG last edited by

              @DoctorG said in Inconsistent clipping web to Note:

              @janrif Copying raw text or HTML formatted content works for me with 5.4.2753.3 Win 11.

              Do you have a special webpage where this happens.

              No. That's part of the problem. I never know which way clip to note will be rendered. It happens daily to multiple -- but not all -- webpages. Maybe I'm missing a setting or something. I don't do anything weird. I make selection in webpage & use option "Clip to Note" I don't what else to say on this subject except to say it is very annoying & not so productive. Thanks for your interest.

              Jan Rifkinson
              Ridgefield CT
              Vivaldi 5.8.2970.3 (Official Build) (64-bit)
              Revision 30b06a17761ff3e56dcf487e90e1de7e266a2fc6
              OS Windows 11 Version 22H2 (Build 23419.1000)

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              • Pathduck
                Pathduck Moderator @janrif last edited by

                @janrif said in Inconsistent clipping web to Note:

                It happens daily to multiple -- but not all -- webpages.

                Give an example of such a webpage where it happens. If you don't give an example no-one is able to reproduce and nothing will happen.

                Making a bug report of "something weird happens on some sites some of the time" will not get things fixed.

                > BTW, today I cannot connect to mozdev.org, would you know why?
                Maybe that big lizard escaped and ate the server admins? :-)
                -- Richard Grevers, on opera.beta

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                • janrif
                  janrif @DoctorG last edited by

                  @DoctorG said in Inconsistent clipping web to Note:

                  @janrif Copying raw text or HTML formatted content works for me with 5.4.2753.3 Win 11.

                  Do you have a special webpage where this happens.

                  @DoctorG Just to be very clear: Are you stating this kind of Clipping to Note behavior has never happened to you?

                  Jan Rifkinson
                  Ridgefield CT
                  Vivaldi 5.8.2970.3 (Official Build) (64-bit)
                  Revision 30b06a17761ff3e56dcf487e90e1de7e266a2fc6
                  OS Windows 11 Version 22H2 (Build 23419.1000)

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                  • DoctorG
                    DoctorG - Ambassador - @janrif last edited by

                    @janrif Such issue never happened to me. All notes are filled with text. I tried adding notes with Ctrl+Shift+C and by context menu.

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                    • Pathduck
                      Pathduck Moderator @janrif last edited by

                      @janrif Are you sure you're not misunderstanding how this is supposed to work?

                      "When you save the capture as a note, the screenshot will be saved with the capture date and page URL. The note won’t have a title or any text content, so go to the Notes Panel or Notes Manager to add it."
                      https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/tools/capture-a-screenshot/

                      "The note will be added with the capture as an attachment, the webpage link and creation date. You can add a title and note about the screenshot."
                      https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/tools/notes-manager/

                      It just captures a screenshot from the selection, it does not capture formatted HTML content.

                      > BTW, today I cannot connect to mozdev.org, would you know why?
                      Maybe that big lizard escaped and ate the server admins? :-)
                      -- Richard Grevers, on opera.beta

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                      • janrif
                        janrif @Pathduck last edited by

                        @Pathduck said in Inconsistent clipping web to Note:

                        @janrif Are you sure you're not misunderstanding how this is supposed to work?

                        "When you save the capture as a note, the screenshot will be saved with the capture date and page URL. The note won’t have a title or any text content, so go to the Notes Panel or Notes Manager to add it."
                        https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/tools/capture-a-screenshot/

                        "The note will be added with the capture as an attachment, the webpage link and creation date. You can add a title and note about the screenshot."
                        https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/tools/notes-manager/

                        It just captures a screenshot from the selection, it does not capture formatted HTML content.

                        I'm sorry but I don't think what you offer is the complete answer.

                        For example:
                        Open Wikipedia web page in new tab
                        Search for item
                        Select material from search page results
                        Select <Copy to Note> command
                        Vivaldi adds selected text content to Note and the date & URL

                        However, Open Mail
                        Select sentence or paragraph
                        Select <Copy to Clipboard>
                        Create a new note
                        Click paste inside new blank note
                        Selected text nor URL nor time are pasted anywhere

                        And as I posted to begin with
                        If user is on some websites and user marks selection and <Copy to Note> sometimes Vivaldi includes selection in body of note and URL and date and sometimes it just produces screenshot & URL w/o Title and Text Content.

                        ......so my conclusion is there is inconsistency in Clip to Note function and it would be nice to know which result user is going to get before commiting to the function.

                        Jan Rifkinson
                        Ridgefield CT
                        Vivaldi 5.8.2970.3 (Official Build) (64-bit)
                        Revision 30b06a17761ff3e56dcf487e90e1de7e266a2fc6
                        OS Windows 11 Version 22H2 (Build 23419.1000)

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                        • Pathduck
                          Pathduck Moderator @janrif last edited by Pathduck

                          @janrif You said absolutely nothing about Mail, are we supposed to just guess what you're talking about?

                          However, Open Mail
                          Select sentence or paragraph
                          Select <Copy to Clipboard>
                          Create a new note
                          Click paste inside new blank note
                          Selected text nor URL nor time are pasted anywhere

                          I cannot confirm this - copying text from a HTML mail into a new note works fine. Also there is no "Copy to clipboard" option, so I'm going to guess you mean right-click -> Copy from the context menu.
                          Video: https://ttm.sh/w60.mp4

                          Obviously there is no URL when pasting a note directly from the clipboard, as there is no way of knowing what URL you got the text.

                          However, since you finally made it clear it was Mail, I can confirm that when choosing "Copy to Note" from an email the note content will be empty.
                          Video: https://ttm.sh/w6S.mp4

                          Please report this as a bug, make sure to mention that this is from the Mail client and not web pages, and make sure to create detailed step-by-step instructions how to recreate the issue.
                          https://vivaldi.com/bugreport/

                          And as I posted to begin with
                          If user is on some websites and user marks selection and <Copy to Note> sometimes Vivaldi includes selection in body of note and URL and date and sometimes it just produces screenshot & URL w/o Title and Text Content.

                          Again, you will need to provide reproduction steps, because no-else can reproduce this. If it's only sometimes you'll need to figure out when this sometimes occurs. Not easy but keep trying to find a pattern when it happens.

                          And again, example web sites will help others test and try to reproduce the problem.

                          Also, might I suggest that since you're obviously struggling to explain what you're seeing on-screen, that you learn to make simple screen recordings to let others understand what you're talking about. It's not really difficult to do so and there are several programs to allow you to do so.
                          https://getsharex.com

                          > BTW, today I cannot connect to mozdev.org, would you know why?
                          Maybe that big lizard escaped and ate the server admins? :-)
                          -- Richard Grevers, on opera.beta

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                          • DoctorG
                            DoctorG - Ambassador - @janrif last edited by

                            @janrif I can confirm the issue with Vivaldi Mail 1.0!
                            Please report bug to Vivaldi tracker i will confirm internally.

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                            • janrif
                              janrif @Pathduck last edited by janrif

                              @Pathduck I really take exception to the "tone" of your reply. Please don't "speak" to me this way again. It is definitely not helpful. Thank you.

                              Jan Rifkinson
                              Ridgefield CT
                              Vivaldi 5.8.2970.3 (Official Build) (64-bit)
                              Revision 30b06a17761ff3e56dcf487e90e1de7e266a2fc6
                              OS Windows 11 Version 22H2 (Build 23419.1000)

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                              • janrif
                                janrif @DoctorG last edited by

                                @DoctorG said in Inconsistent clipping web to Note:

                                @janrif I can confirm the issue with Vivaldi Mail 1.0!
                                Please report bug to Vivaldi tracker i will confirm internally.

                                Thank you; will do.

                                Jan Rifkinson
                                Ridgefield CT
                                Vivaldi 5.8.2970.3 (Official Build) (64-bit)
                                Revision 30b06a17761ff3e56dcf487e90e1de7e266a2fc6
                                OS Windows 11 Version 22H2 (Build 23419.1000)

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                                • janrif
                                  janrif @DoctorG last edited by

                                  @DoctorG said in Inconsistent clipping web to Note:

                                  @janrif I can confirm the issue with Vivaldi Mail 1.0!
                                  Please report bug to Vivaldi tracker i will confirm internally.

                                  Done

                                  Jan Rifkinson
                                  Ridgefield CT
                                  Vivaldi 5.8.2970.3 (Official Build) (64-bit)
                                  Revision 30b06a17761ff3e56dcf487e90e1de7e266a2fc6
                                  OS Windows 11 Version 22H2 (Build 23419.1000)

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                                  • DoctorG
                                    DoctorG - Ambassador - @janrif last edited by DoctorG

                                    @janrif Which bug number?
                                    Found it: VB-90798 "Clipping from email; pasting to Note doesn't work. (confirmed on forum) …" - Confirmed.

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