Vivaldi Snapshot doesn't get auto update
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I install Vivaldi Snapshot - 5.4.2741.3 (Official Build) snapshot (64-bit) on Fedora 36. I noticed that a new Snapshot version - 5.4.2751.3 is released, but I still don't get any update.
According to the official help page, Vivaldi on Linux should get updated automatically with the rest of the OS components.
Therefore, I checked my
dnfrepositories list with:sudo dnf repolistBut I can't see any Vivaldi related repo at all, as shown in the screenshot below:
This could be the reason why I still don't get any update.
Please fix this ASAP Vivaldi team. I can't use a browser that's waiting to be a security hole in my system due to not being able to auto updating/patching itself.
Thanks.
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@archerallstars You may wish to update manually. Officially released rpm package.Linux users always have a way. isn't it?
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Yes, I can update manually (I already did). However, I should not have to do this myself. This is a security hole, unless I check at Vivaldi Blog every day.
No, thanks. I would rather stick with Google Chrome to eliminate my human error.
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@archerallstars
The assertion that "This is a security hole" may be a bit heavy. It should be said that there may be potential security issues if and only if it is confirmed that the previous version has known security vulnerabilities. After all, confirmed security vulnerabilities are usually the first to be patched and not waited until the next version is released, unless it is just in time for the new version to be released.So, in terms of "security holes" alone, a new version that imports new features may be less secure than the previous version because of the addition of new code that may have security implications.
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@archerallstars I suspect you have a local system, &/or methodology, problem, but not a generic Vivaldi problem... fwiw:
Fedora 36 KDE VM [only V Stable]: .',;::::;,'. guigirl@fedora .';:cccccccccccc:;,. -------------- .;cccccccccccccccccccccc;. OS: Fedora Linux 36 (KDE Plasma) x86_64 .:cccccccccccccccccccccccccc:. Host: KVM/QEMU (Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9, 2009) pc-q35- .;ccccccccccccc;.:dddl:.;ccccccc;. Kernel: 5.18.11-200.fc36.x86_64 .:ccccccccccccc;OWMKOOXMWd;ccccccc:. Uptime: 13 mins .:ccccccccccccc;KMMc;cc;xMMc:ccccccc:. Packages: 2117 (rpm) ,cccccccccccccc;MMM.;cc;;WW::cccccccc, Shell: bash 5.1.16 :cccccccccccccc;MMM.;cccccccccccccccc: Resolution: 1848x1021 :ccccccc;oxOOOo;MMM0OOk.;cccccccccccc: DE: Plasma 5.25.3 cccccc:0MMKxdd:;MMMkddc.;cccccccccccc; WM: KWin ccccc:XM0';cccc;MMM.;cccccccccccccccc' WM Theme: plastik ccccc;MMo;ccccc;MMW.;ccccccccccccccc; Theme: Breeze Dark [Plasma], Breeze [GTK2/3] ccccc;0MNc.ccc.xMMd:ccccccccccccccc; Icons: breeze-dark [Plasma], breeze-dark [GTK2/3] cccccc;dNMWXXXWM0::cccccccccccccc:, Terminal: konsole cccccccc;.:odl:.;cccccccccccccc:,. CPU: Intel (Haswell, no TSX, IBRS) (2) @ 3.599GHz :cccccccccccccccccccccccccccc:'. GPU: 00:01.0 Red Hat, Inc. Virtio GPU .:cccccccccccccccccccccc:;,.. Memory: 1645MiB / 3822MiB '::cccccccccccccc::;,. [guigirl@fedora ~]$ sudo dnf repolist repo id repo name fedora Fedora 36 - x86_64 fedora-cisco-openh264 Fedora 36 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64 fedora-modular Fedora Modular 36 - x86_64 rpmfusion-free RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Free rpmfusion-free-tainted RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Free tainted rpmfusion-free-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Free - Updates rpmfusion-nonfree RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Nonfree rpmfusion-nonfree-tainted RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Nonfree tainted rpmfusion-nonfree-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Nonfree - Updates updates Fedora 36 - x86_64 - Updates updates-modular Fedora Modular 36 - x86_64 - Updates vivaldi vivaldi [guigirl@fedora ~]$ Fedora 36 Cinnamon VM [only V Stable]: .',;::::;,'. guigirl@fedora .';:cccccccccccc:;,. -------------- .;cccccccccccccccccccccc;. OS: Fedora Linux 36 (Cinnamon) x86_64 .:cccccccccccccccccccccccccc:. Host: KVM/QEMU (Standard PC (Q35 + ICH .;ccccccccccccc;.:dddl:.;ccccccc;. Kernel: 5.18.10-200.fc36.x86_64 .:ccccccccccccc;OWMKOOXMWd;ccccccc:. Uptime: 2 mins .:ccccccccccccc;KMMc;cc;xMMc:ccccccc:. Packages: 1794 (rpm) ,cccccccccccccc;MMM.;cc;;WW::cccccccc, Shell: bash 5.1.16 :cccccccccccccc;MMM.;cccccccccccccccc: Resolution: 1848x1021 :ccccccc;oxOOOo;MMM0OOk.;cccccccccccc: DE: Cinnamon 5.2.7 cccccc:0MMKxdd:;MMMkddc.;cccccccccccc; WM: Mutter (Muffin) ccccc:XM0';cccc;MMM.;cccccccccccccccc' WM Theme: Mint-Y-Dark-Purple (Mint-Y) ccccc;MMo;ccccc;MMW.;ccccccccccccccc; Theme: Mint-Y-Dark-Purple [GTK2/3] ccccc;0MNc.ccc.xMMd:ccccccccccccccc; Icons: Mint-Y-Dark-Purple [GTK2/3] cccccc;dNMWXXXWM0::cccccccccccccc:, Terminal: gnome-terminal cccccccc;.:odl:.;cccccccccccccc:,. CPU: Intel i7-4790 (2) @ 3.599GHz :cccccccccccccccccccccccccccc:'. GPU: 00:01.0 Red Hat, Inc. Virtio GPU .:cccccccccccccccccccccc:;,.. Memory: 1495MiB / 3807MiB '::cccccccccccccc::;,. [guigirl@fedora ~]$ sudo dnf repolist [sudo] password for guigirl: repo id repo name fedora Fedora 36 - x86_64 fedora-cisco-openh264 Fedora 36 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64 fedora-modular Fedora Modular 36 - x86_64 rpmfusion-free RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Free rpmfusion-free-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Free - Updates rpmfusion-nonfree RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Nonfree rpmfusion-nonfree-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Nonfree - Updates updates Fedora 36 - x86_64 - Updates updates-modular Fedora Modular 36 - x86_64 - Updates vivaldi vivaldi [guigirl@fedora ~]$ Fedora 37 KDE VM [V Stable & Snappie]: .',;::::;,'. guigirl@fedora-branched .';:cccccccccccc:;,. ----------------------- .;cccccccccccccccccccccc;. OS: Fedora Linux 37 (Workstation Edition Prerelease) x86_64 .:cccccccccccccccccccccccccc:. Host: KVM/QEMU (Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9, 2009) pc-q35-6.2) .;ccccccccccccc;.:dddl:.;ccccccc;. Kernel: 5.19.0-0.rc5.20220708gite8a4e1c1bb69.44.fc37.x86_64 .:ccccccccccccc;OWMKOOXMWd;ccccccc:. Uptime: 22 mins .:ccccccccccccc;KMMc;cc;xMMc:ccccccc:. Packages: 2947 (rpm) ,cccccccccccccc;MMM.;cc;;WW::cccccccc, Shell: bash 5.1.16 :cccccccccccccc;MMM.;cccccccccccccccc: Resolution: 1848x1023 :ccccccc;oxOOOo;MMM0OOk.;cccccccccccc: DE: Plasma 5.25.2 cccccc:0MMKxdd:;MMMkddc.;cccccccccccc; WM: KWin ccccc:XM0';cccc;MMM.;cccccccccccccccc' WM Theme: plastik ccccc;MMo;ccccc;MMW.;ccccccccccccccc; Theme: Breeze Dark [Plasma], Adwaita-dark [GTK2/3] ccccc;0MNc.ccc.xMMd:ccccccccccccccc; Icons: breeze-dark [Plasma], breeze-dark [GTK2/3] cccccc;dNMWXXXWM0::cccccccccccccc:, Terminal: konsole cccccccc;.:odl:.;cccccccccccccc:,. CPU: Intel (Haswell, no TSX, IBRS) (2) @ 3.599GHz :cccccccccccccccccccccccccccc:'. GPU: 00:01.0 Red Hat, Inc. Virtio GPU .:cccccccccccccccccccccc:;,.. Memory: 1585MiB / 3892MiB '::cccccccccccccc::;,. [guigirl@fedora-branched ~]$ sudo dnf repolist repo id repo name fedora-cisco-openh264 Fedora rawhide openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64 rawhide Fedora - Rawhide - Developmental packages for the next Fedora release rawhide-modular Fedora - Modular Rawhide - Developmental packages for the next Fedora release rpmfusion-free-rawhide RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Free rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Nonfree vivaldi vivaldi vivaldi-snapshot vivaldi-snapshot [guigirl@fedora-branched ~]$ -
No one knows whether the current version will have security vulnerabilities, until it's spotted and fix in a new version. That's in the future.
And it's almost impossible that a new version will contain security vulnerabilities that were previously patched. If it's a new "bug", then yes. Otherwise, we would have using Vivaldi 4 in the fear that Vivaldi 5 might contain security vulnerabilities that are not presented in Vivaldi 4.
However, all of this would be beside the point. The point is that, the update should be presented to the users when it's available. The decision to update is another matter entirely.
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@archerallstars said in Vivaldi Snapshot doesn't get auto update:
the update should be presented to the users when it's available
That's exactly how it does work for me, in all three current F VMs, & in the other 2 or 3 i recently deleted. It always works fine.
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@guigirl said in Vivaldi Snapshot doesn't get auto update:
@archerallstars I suspect you have a local system, &/or methodology, problem, but not a generic Vivaldi problem... fwiw:
Fedora 36 KDE VM [only V Stable]: .',;::::;,'. guigirl@fedora .';:cccccccccccc:;,. -------------- .;cccccccccccccccccccccc;. OS: Fedora Linux 36 (KDE Plasma) x86_64 .:cccccccccccccccccccccccccc:. Host: KVM/QEMU (Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9, 2009) pc-q35- .;ccccccccccccc;.:dddl:.;ccccccc;. Kernel: 5.18.11-200.fc36.x86_64 .:ccccccccccccc;OWMKOOXMWd;ccccccc:. Uptime: 13 mins .:ccccccccccccc;KMMc;cc;xMMc:ccccccc:. Packages: 2117 (rpm) ,cccccccccccccc;MMM.;cc;;WW::cccccccc, Shell: bash 5.1.16 :cccccccccccccc;MMM.;cccccccccccccccc: Resolution: 1848x1021 :ccccccc;oxOOOo;MMM0OOk.;cccccccccccc: DE: Plasma 5.25.3 cccccc:0MMKxdd:;MMMkddc.;cccccccccccc; WM: KWin ccccc:XM0';cccc;MMM.;cccccccccccccccc' WM Theme: plastik ccccc;MMo;ccccc;MMW.;ccccccccccccccc; Theme: Breeze Dark [Plasma], Breeze [GTK2/3] ccccc;0MNc.ccc.xMMd:ccccccccccccccc; Icons: breeze-dark [Plasma], breeze-dark [GTK2/3] cccccc;dNMWXXXWM0::cccccccccccccc:, Terminal: konsole cccccccc;.:odl:.;cccccccccccccc:,. CPU: Intel (Haswell, no TSX, IBRS) (2) @ 3.599GHz :cccccccccccccccccccccccccccc:'. GPU: 00:01.0 Red Hat, Inc. Virtio GPU .:cccccccccccccccccccccc:;,.. Memory: 1645MiB / 3822MiB '::cccccccccccccc::;,. [guigirl@fedora ~]$ sudo dnf repolist repo id repo name fedora Fedora 36 - x86_64 fedora-cisco-openh264 Fedora 36 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64 fedora-modular Fedora Modular 36 - x86_64 rpmfusion-free RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Free rpmfusion-free-tainted RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Free tainted rpmfusion-free-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Free - Updates rpmfusion-nonfree RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Nonfree rpmfusion-nonfree-tainted RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Nonfree tainted rpmfusion-nonfree-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Nonfree - Updates updates Fedora 36 - x86_64 - Updates updates-modular Fedora Modular 36 - x86_64 - Updates vivaldi vivaldi [guigirl@fedora ~]$ Fedora 36 Cinnamon VM [only V Stable]: .',;::::;,'. guigirl@fedora .';:cccccccccccc:;,. -------------- .;cccccccccccccccccccccc;. OS: Fedora Linux 36 (Cinnamon) x86_64 .:cccccccccccccccccccccccccc:. Host: KVM/QEMU (Standard PC (Q35 + ICH .;ccccccccccccc;.:dddl:.;ccccccc;. Kernel: 5.18.10-200.fc36.x86_64 .:ccccccccccccc;OWMKOOXMWd;ccccccc:. Uptime: 2 mins .:ccccccccccccc;KMMc;cc;xMMc:ccccccc:. Packages: 1794 (rpm) ,cccccccccccccc;MMM.;cc;;WW::cccccccc, Shell: bash 5.1.16 :cccccccccccccc;MMM.;cccccccccccccccc: Resolution: 1848x1021 :ccccccc;oxOOOo;MMM0OOk.;cccccccccccc: DE: Cinnamon 5.2.7 cccccc:0MMKxdd:;MMMkddc.;cccccccccccc; WM: Mutter (Muffin) ccccc:XM0';cccc;MMM.;cccccccccccccccc' WM Theme: Mint-Y-Dark-Purple (Mint-Y) ccccc;MMo;ccccc;MMW.;ccccccccccccccc; Theme: Mint-Y-Dark-Purple [GTK2/3] ccccc;0MNc.ccc.xMMd:ccccccccccccccc; Icons: Mint-Y-Dark-Purple [GTK2/3] cccccc;dNMWXXXWM0::cccccccccccccc:, Terminal: gnome-terminal cccccccc;.:odl:.;cccccccccccccc:,. CPU: Intel i7-4790 (2) @ 3.599GHz :cccccccccccccccccccccccccccc:'. GPU: 00:01.0 Red Hat, Inc. Virtio GPU .:cccccccccccccccccccccc:;,.. Memory: 1495MiB / 3807MiB '::cccccccccccccc::;,. [guigirl@fedora ~]$ sudo dnf repolist [sudo] password for guigirl: repo id repo name fedora Fedora 36 - x86_64 fedora-cisco-openh264 Fedora 36 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64 fedora-modular Fedora Modular 36 - x86_64 rpmfusion-free RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Free rpmfusion-free-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Free - Updates rpmfusion-nonfree RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Nonfree rpmfusion-nonfree-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Nonfree - Updates updates Fedora 36 - x86_64 - Updates updates-modular Fedora Modular 36 - x86_64 - Updates vivaldi vivaldi [guigirl@fedora ~]$ Fedora 37 KDE VM [V Stable & Snappie]: .',;::::;,'. guigirl@fedora-branched .';:cccccccccccc:;,. ----------------------- .;cccccccccccccccccccccc;. OS: Fedora Linux 37 (Workstation Edition Prerelease) x86_64 .:cccccccccccccccccccccccccc:. Host: KVM/QEMU (Standard PC (Q35 + ICH9, 2009) pc-q35-6.2) .;ccccccccccccc;.:dddl:.;ccccccc;. Kernel: 5.19.0-0.rc5.20220708gite8a4e1c1bb69.44.fc37.x86_64 .:ccccccccccccc;OWMKOOXMWd;ccccccc:. Uptime: 22 mins .:ccccccccccccc;KMMc;cc;xMMc:ccccccc:. Packages: 2947 (rpm) ,cccccccccccccc;MMM.;cc;;WW::cccccccc, Shell: bash 5.1.16 :cccccccccccccc;MMM.;cccccccccccccccc: Resolution: 1848x1023 :ccccccc;oxOOOo;MMM0OOk.;cccccccccccc: DE: Plasma 5.25.2 cccccc:0MMKxdd:;MMMkddc.;cccccccccccc; WM: KWin ccccc:XM0';cccc;MMM.;cccccccccccccccc' WM Theme: plastik ccccc;MMo;ccccc;MMW.;ccccccccccccccc; Theme: Breeze Dark [Plasma], Adwaita-dark [GTK2/3] ccccc;0MNc.ccc.xMMd:ccccccccccccccc; Icons: breeze-dark [Plasma], breeze-dark [GTK2/3] cccccc;dNMWXXXWM0::cccccccccccccc:, Terminal: konsole cccccccc;.:odl:.;cccccccccccccc:,. CPU: Intel (Haswell, no TSX, IBRS) (2) @ 3.599GHz :cccccccccccccccccccccccccccc:'. GPU: 00:01.0 Red Hat, Inc. Virtio GPU .:cccccccccccccccccccccc:;,.. Memory: 1585MiB / 3892MiB '::cccccccccccccc::;,. [guigirl@fedora-branched ~]$ sudo dnf repolist repo id repo name fedora-cisco-openh264 Fedora rawhide openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64 rawhide Fedora - Rawhide - Developmental packages for the next Fedora release rawhide-modular Fedora - Modular Rawhide - Developmental packages for the next Fedora release rpmfusion-free-rawhide RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Free rpmfusion-nonfree-rawhide RPM Fusion for Fedora Rawhide - Nonfree vivaldi vivaldi vivaldi-snapshot vivaldi-snapshot [guigirl@fedora-branched ~]$I don't know. I download and use the RPM installer from this official page, with
sudo dnf install ./vivaldi-snapshot-5.4.2751.3-1.x86_64.rpmin my download location. And there's no Vivaldi repo add into my system. It's just as simple as that.If my system is the issue, there should not have other repositories showing up too, for instance, Google Chrome repository is showing up, but not Vivaldi.
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@archerallstars And yet...
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Somehow, there's some packaging issue going on here. I don't know. It's not a rocket science to install a binary package anyway.
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@archerallstars I am out of my depth here, but maybe this will help?
https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/install-update/install-snapshots-on-non-deb-rpm-distros/
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@archerallstars said in Vivaldi Snapshot doesn't get auto update:
I download and use the RPM installer from this official page, with
I set up those VMs some time back, thus certainly did not use your link to the current Snappie blog page. However, as you saw from my earlier post, 2 of my current F VMs only have Stable not Snappie. So, now, i am going to install Snappie into one of them, via the rpm i shall d/l from your linked V page, then i shall update this post to let you know what ensued.
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@archerallstars Righteo...
.',;::::;,'. guigirl@fedora .';:cccccccccccc:;,. -------------- .;cccccccccccccccccccccc;. OS: Fedora Linux 36 (Cinnamon) x86_64 .:cccccccccccccccccccccccccc:. Host: KVM/QEMU (Standard PC (Q35 + ICH .;ccccccccccccc;.:dddl:.;ccccccc;. Kernel: 5.18.13-200.fc36.x86_64 .:ccccccccccccc;OWMKOOXMWd;ccccccc:. Uptime: 2 mins .:ccccccccccccc;KMMc;cc;xMMc:ccccccc:. Packages: 1795 (rpm) ,cccccccccccccc;MMM.;cc;;WW::cccccccc, Shell: bash 5.1.16 :cccccccccccccc;MMM.;cccccccccccccccc: Resolution: 1848x1021 :ccccccc;oxOOOo;MMM0OOk.;cccccccccccc: DE: Cinnamon 5.2.7 cccccc:0MMKxdd:;MMMkddc.;cccccccccccc; WM: Mutter (Muffin) ccccc:XM0';cccc;MMM.;cccccccccccccccc' WM Theme: Mint-Y-Dark-Purple (Mint-Y) ccccc;MMo;ccccc;MMW.;ccccccccccccccc; Theme: Mint-Y-Dark-Purple [GTK2/3] ccccc;0MNc.ccc.xMMd:ccccccccccccccc; Icons: Mint-Y-Dark-Purple [GTK2/3] cccccc;dNMWXXXWM0::cccccccccccccc:, Terminal: gnome-terminal cccccccc;.:odl:.;cccccccccccccc:,. CPU: Intel i7-4790 (2) @ 3.599GHz :cccccccccccccccccccccccccccc:'. GPU: 00:01.0 Red Hat, Inc. Virtio GPU .:cccccccccccccccccccccc:;,.. Memory: 1218MiB / 3807MiB '::cccccccccccccc::;,. [guigirl@fedora ~]$ sudo dnf repolist [sudo] password for guigirl: repo id repo name fedora Fedora 36 - x86_64 fedora-cisco-openh264 Fedora 36 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64 fedora-modular Fedora Modular 36 - x86_64 rpmfusion-free RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Free rpmfusion-free-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Free - Updates rpmfusion-nonfree RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Nonfree rpmfusion-nonfree-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 - Nonfree - Updates updates Fedora 36 - x86_64 - Updates updates-modular Fedora Modular 36 - x86_64 - Updates vivaldi vivaldi vivaldi-snapshot vivaldi-snapshot [guigirl@fedora ~]$Notes:
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Though for non-V packages i install & do system updates in terminal with
dnf, specifically for V i get lazy & instead simply right-click the downloaded rpm file/s then clickOpen with Software Install, ie the Software GUI app. That's how i did it here too this time. -
Before doing the above, this VM was overdue for a system update, so i did that [>200 pkgs] first. Being impatient, i foolishly then manually installed Snappie as above, then immediately checked the repo list. V Snappie was not in the list. I then rebooted [which ofc i should have done before, sigh], & rechecked the list, & Snappie is now present, per my codebox above.
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This reminds me of this thread with vanished OP...
https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/590470@nomadic said in Vivaldi Snapshot doesn't get auto update:
I am out of my depth here, but maybe this will help?
No.
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@guigirl said in Vivaldi Snapshot doesn't get auto update:
V Snappie was not in the list. I then rebooted
Judging by the way Fedora does the updates (aka like Windoze "please don't turn off your PC"
) this sounds like the proper solution 
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Don't get too exciting, ladies. I re-installed and restarted many times before I came here. There's no Vivaldi repository to be found on my system, whether I install with
sudo dnf installor the GNOME Software.Well...
Covid? Nope.
Monkeypox? Nope.
Influenza? Nope.
Asteroid? Nope.These questions show the quality of this community pretty well. I hope the majority of the members are not like this.
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For the additional info, I tested further to make sure this issue is not on my system. I tried installing Opera just now with the official RPM package the exact same way that I installed Vivaldi, and I have Opera on my
repolistwithout any issue.On Fedora, you can easily check whether you accidentally disabled any repository. For example, you can check whether you had disabled Vivaldi's repository by:
sudo dnf config-manager --set-enabled vivaldior
sudo dnf config-manager --set-enabled vivaldi-snapshotIf you had disabled Vivaldi's repository before, you should get no return from the command. But you will definitely see Vivaldi in your repositories list when you run
sudo dnf repolist.But if you run
sudo dnf config-manager --set-enabled vivaldiand it returns:Error: No matching repo to modify: vivaldi.It means that this repository NEVER EXIST in your system, which is the return that I am getting, as shown in my screenshot below:
You can see more about adding or removing software repositories in Fedora.
