Finally Legend Awakes!



  • That feel... When i started Vivaldi Browser and saw the Opera 12x interface... Thank you a lot guys. I never liked the new Opera. Used 12.16 for a long time, resisted. But let's face with it, Opera was a bit retarted about javascript. Especially in the recent times, it took my almost 5-8 seconds to load youtube, click into textbox, write something and see the autocomplete results... Chromium is good with highly javascript loaded pages. Yet it's not the browser we know. Glad you used chromium. But i need to say something about chromium render engine (or whatever its techninal name). I realised something after using Opera for years. Old Opera had a different view on pages. How shall i say?... Open google and check the white background and compare with other browsers. You will see that Opera's white and other colors are a bit different, faded and much better for your eyes than the other browsers. Chromium browsers are especially too bright. So i expected the same thing when downloading Vivaldi. But unfortunately, pages are exactly like Google Chrome. I hope this is something you can fix. Apart from that... One of my old habits from Opera is clicking to "Home" button with mouse wheel and open it in a new tab. But vivaldi doesn't allow this. Instead it loads the homepage in existing tab. I know it is just a preview version. Just saying... But i will write my observations regularly into this message by editing it. And hope to have legendary Opera back. Page zoom setting on the bottom right of the screen is great. I missed this option when i was with Chrome. Yet there is a problem. When i hold the dot and drag it, it doesn't give live feedback on the page like old Opera. So it's a bit annoying. Quick bookmarks under the address bar. (We need it so badly!) There are some classical crash issues... Scrolling is not smooth. Even on the Vivaldi's forum... Opera's smooth scrolling feature is needed. New tab animation is not smooth also... Color tabs are great but you need to darken the colors instead of using the color you take from the favicon of the website without editing... Some tabs may be eye-straining in this situation. That is all for now. Thank you again for this...



  • @samedsari:

    I realised something after using Opera for years. Old Opera had a different view on pages. How shall i say?… Open google and check the white background and compare with other browsers. You will see that Opera's white and other colors are a bit different, faded and much better for your eyes than the other browsers. Chromium browsers are especially too bright.

    So i expected the same thing when downloading Vivaldi. But unfortunately, pages are exactly like Google Chrome. I hope this is something you can fix.

    I've found this bit kinda weird, so I had to go and check…and no, as I pretty much expected, the webpage colors in Opera 12.17 are not different at all, they're exactly the same as in any other browser. Could it be you're using some kind of customization in Opera you've forgotten about?



  • @Case:

    @samedsari:

    I realised something after using Opera for years. Old Opera had a different view on pages. How shall i say?… Open google and check the white background and compare with other browsers. You will see that Opera's white and other colors are a bit different, faded and much better for your eyes than the other browsers. Chromium browsers are especially too bright.

    So i expected the same thing when downloading Vivaldi. But unfortunately, pages are exactly like Google Chrome. I hope this is something you can fix.

    I've found this bit kinda weird, so I had to go and check…and no, as I pretty much expected, the webpage colors in Opera 12.17 are not different at all, they're exactly the same as in any other browser. Could it be you're using some kind of customization in Opera you've forgotten about?

    Rendering page in old Opera was different, so some color management can be different from monitor to monitor.
    On the other hand, Vivaldi has Page-actions. we can use/make actions to make websites a bit darker/brighter without extensions.



  • I don't think the rendering and colors has anything to do with that. It was probably how Opera was using your video settings and drivers. I don't think the old Opera 12 had hardware acceleration which is actually a bad thing.

    Chromium or now Blink is an excellent rendering engine, I agree on that. I think its a good choice but I don't like the new Opera interface either, its just poor, very poor, even Chrome is better and I don't like the Chrome interface at all.

    Vivaldi is exactly what we need, a power browser interface that uses Blink as the rendering engine. I think the approach will make a couple of million users very happy. Most people are not happy with Chrome because its from Google. So having Blink in another company and from other people that are not interested in making an all Google services browser, its a good idea. Chrome just wants to bundle everything with Google and there are privacy concerns with Chrome as well.



  • Opera 12 did have hardware acceleration, but I don't really remember anymore if there ever was a final build with HW acceleration enabled by default. If I'm not mistaken, at least some of the preview builds had HW acceleration enabled by default, but I believe it was disabled again eventually, as there were some issues with that on some setups. And the HW acceleration itself was not really worth it as it was actually performing worse than with HW accel disabled for quite a few people even on pretty good HW (myself included).


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    quick bookmarks you mean a bookmark bar? Yeah I agree, bring it back



  • @Case:

    @samedsari:

    I realised something after using Opera for years. Old Opera had a different view on pages. How shall i say?… Open google and check the white background and compare with other browsers. You will see that Opera's white and other colors are a bit different, faded and much better for your eyes than the other browsers. Chromium browsers are especially too bright.

    So i expected the same thing when downloading Vivaldi. But unfortunately, pages are exactly like Google Chrome. I hope this is something you can fix.

    I've found this bit kinda weird, so I had to go and check…and no, as I pretty much expected, the webpage colors in Opera 12.17 are not different at all, they're exactly the same as in any other browser. Could it be you're using some kind of customization in Opera you've forgotten about?

    Nope. There is no customization. Definitely there's something different with opera page rendering.

    @ozoratsubasa:

    quick bookmarks you mean a bookmark bar? Yeah I agree, bring it back

    Yeah, exactly. Under the adress bar…



  • @samedsari:

    Quick bookmarks under the address bar. (We need it so badly!)

    What?
    Bookmarks on the side is sooo much faster and better….



  • @samedsari:

    I realised something after using Opera for years. Old Opera had a different view on pages. How shall i say?… Open google and check the white background and compare with other browsers. You will see that Opera's white and other colors are a bit different, faded and much better for your eyes than the other browsers. Chromium browsers are especially too bright.

    So i expected the same thing when downloading Vivaldi. But unfortunately, pages are exactly like Google Chrome. I hope this is something you can fix.

    It's the same on Opera… I checked.
    I made a print screen, and checked the white color showed on screen. #FFFFFF on both.

    I think it's an illusion, in Opera the interface is not white, bars are this fading gray while on Vivaldi everything is plain white.

    @terere:

    I don't think the rendering and colors has anything to do with that. It was probably how Opera was using your video settings and drivers.

    Nope, once the color is sent to the buffer, the color will be the same. Video settings can only make a difference before that step.


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