Quit complaining people, it's a technical preview!!!!
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Therefore it's not supposed to be used for some serioud work,
writing an email where I type numbers it's not that ¨serious¨
the side-effect of activating the zoom level or switching tabs when I type a number it's a joke.
Vivaldi has so many features that a lot of stable releases out there don't have, let me make an example, when I click ¨compose¨ in my webmail I always get a new window in FF, Opera or whatever, when I tried that with Vivaldi it opened it in a new tab, I said to myself wow! amazing! then I start typing and the numbers make me go crazy. Let's hope the good stuff will remain and the bad stuff will soon be not even a memory.
This is a unique project, I am thankful and happy that these people have decided the niche market we represent was worth the effort, but I have spent so much time in the last 18 months - after Opera died - switching browsers never finding a satisfying solution that I am eager to see Vivaldi fulfill its promise. -
This zoom bug is annoying, just got notice of it today. Will have it fixed
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We are not complaining, we are just helping developers to find bugs and add features, which we (users) want
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After 24 hours testing Vivaldi I feel confident to say that the OP is wrong, we have every right to complain, Vivaldi comes with no disclaimer advising not to use it to do this or don't try to do that
Which part of "download technical preview" you find confusing?
Even if you don't know what a "technical preview" is, every person with the basic understanding of English should know what a "preview" is.
It's like watching a teaser and complaining that the movie was too short.
Don't complain. Report bugs, suggest features - that's what this preview is for.
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Hi, when can we expect the next version (approximately), and how often are you going to release new version? You know I've been waiting for something like this for over a year so I just can not wait when I can test new versions
PS. Great we have some contact with the developers. The creators of a new Opera, unfortunately, are not willing to talk with the community
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writing an email where I type numbers it's not that ¨serious¨
OK, this sounds like a serious bug Just report it and stay calm. I think at this moment it's neccessary to have another browser opened beside Vivaldi, because it doesn't allow me to enter some e.g. some internal company site. So keep it, try it but don't consider it as final product. That's all I wanted to say.
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We will have frequent updates, similar to Opera "dev" releases or the old type "snapshots".
Things will go smoother after a while, we just need things to go back to normal after the initial release
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This zoom bug is annoying, just got notice of it today. Will have it fixed
I had no doubt about that
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Nothing to complain about here:
- HTML5 Test scored 511
- Acid 3 Test passed with 100
- Peacekeeper Benchmark failed
- PDF file loaded nicely
It is far too soon to say whether this will ever replace Opera 12.18 as my default browser, but it is a step in the right direction. Ignore the whiners — they're not worth the time of day — but do listen to polite and constructive criticism.
I am too busy now to do much testing for the next few months, but I will keep track of developments and I have alerted others to the release.
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Nothing to complain about here:
Same here. Installed on Win7, working as usual, incl. mouse gestures, importing bookmarks and so on. Better than O27 so far. Installed on Ubuntu - same result.
I used Opera since 1998, so I have experiences in browser troubles. Vivaldi is nearly okay in pre-alpha, so what to expect when ready? Give me some privacy features, and I'll love it for sure.Michael
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as i don't do much 'serious' stuff in a browser Vivaldi is now my default program, shame theres no 32bit version at the moment for older hardware, but, its the best chromium based so far for what i need it to do
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The zoom bug was reported by me and plenty of people already as well, all they need is to add is the Ctrl modifier to it and problem solved. Most bugs are not terrible things which will take months to solve but can be fixed rather quickly.
As for the preview, of course you should not use it as your main browser replacement. Not yet people. If you do it, its under your own risk. I don't think its usable yet, for basic reading and browsing sure, but not for real stuff.
Its day two, so don't be so impatient. First they need to get all the feedback and bugs reported, a bug tracker is indeed a good idea. A change log would also be interesting and a newsletter to keep us informed of new versions or some special news site because as bugs gets fixed I think most want the updates as they keep coming.
I don't agree with complaining. Complaining is not reporting bugs or giving feedback, complaining is whining like kids when things don't work, that is not reporting things or providing feedback, that is just plain complaining and trows negativity everywhere. Be professionals. You want the development team to be motivated to do their work, not send them bad vibes about how bad something works and how terrible it is. Constructive criticism is welcomed. Complaining? You have absolutely no right to complain, you did not paid for the product, you spend nothing, it was free, you should be thankful. If it was something you paid then you would have the right to complain, as its free and they said it has bugs and its a preview, you have no right to do it since nobody is forcing you to use it.
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Complaining? You have absolutely no right to complain, you did not paid for the product, you spend nothing, it was free, you should be thankful. If it was something you paid then you would have the right to complain, as its free and they said it has bugs and its a preview, you have no right to do it since nobody is forcing you to use it.
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is it free? how are they going to pay their bills then?
it's the flow of free information we provide using the browser that pays them.
we provide information for free, they provide a browser for free.
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Complaining? You have absolutely no right to complain, you did not paid for the product, you spend nothing, it was free, you should be thankful. If it was something you paid then you would have the right to complain, as its free and they said it has bugs and its a preview, you have no right to do it since nobody is forcing you to use it.
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is it free? how are they going to pay their bills then?
it's the flow of free information we provide using the browser that pays them.
we provide information for free, they provide a browser for free.
the way I see it, there is nothing for free here.I assume you are one of those guys that says information is and should be free on the Internet, but then argue that the information you provide to others is of so much value and its really not free…
Complaining is not information, its trash bytes.
What is your point? Of course the information has some value but its overrated. Most value provided is the same over and over again. It has no direct monetary value.
You don't pay your bills or put food in your table with forums posts. The Vivaldi developers need real money and you never paid a dime yet, so this is why I said its free, free like no paying money.
Your download was free, your usage to the forums is free. And guess what? It costs them money in hosting, in servers, in licensing from software, moderators which have a salary, developers that are also paid, at the end of the month its a nice sum of money and how much did the complainers paid? Nothing. So no, they have no right to complain. Nobody is forcing them to use a technical preview.
Also, complaints are worth nothing, they are not information. Valid bug reporting and real criticism has some value but complaining is just trash, it has no value at all and they would be better without it. In particular if they receive complaints for free.
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Also, complaints are worth nothing, they are not information. Valid bug reporting and real criticism has some value but complaining is just trash, it has no value at all and they would be better without it. In particular if they receive complaints for free.
are you serious? even a toddler in 2015 should understand what I was saying, are you a toddler? or a troll?
In the case you are a toddler not yet aware of the ways of the world: browsers are free because they - and when I say they I mean everybody from Qupzilla to Chrome and everything in between though on a different scale of course - make money when we use their browsers thanks to ads and the information/data they gather when we use them. -
Also, complaints are worth nothing, they are not information. Valid bug reporting and real criticism has some value but complaining is just trash, it has no value at all and they would be better without it. In particular if they receive complaints for free.
are you serious? even a toddler in 2015 should understand what I was saying, are you a toddler? or a troll?
In the case you are a toddler not yet aware of the ways of the world: browsers are free because they - and when I say they I mean everybody from Qupzilla to Chrome and everything in between though on a different scale of course - make money when we use their browsers thanks to ads and the information/data they gather when we use them.You are the one saying its ok and we have the right to complain and I'm the troll? I just said we don't, valid criticism is welcomed, complaining, I don't think you are entitled and that is my personal opinion.
I think you have the wrong forum or browser as well with your comment on ads and information/data = money.
Opera users don't like their usage data send to browsers. If you want a browser that sells users data and makes money out users with their data, then Chrome is a nice option. In case you didn't notice it, most users here are not comfortable with that. There is actually a topic already where people ask what info is send to Google. So you are sooo wrong, Vivaldi is not supposed to make money from getting information/data from our usage. I will surely not use it if that is the case. And their CEO already said privacy is one of their concerns, so no, Vivaldi will not make money from selling usage data like other browsers. We don't want just another browser like everyone else.
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Easy now.
It's a technical preview and people should obviously not expect it to work flawlessly. The purpose is to give everyone an idea of where this browser is heading further down the line. You can start to expect a bug-free environment once there is a stable release.
It's not forbidden to complain in this world, but it is not very clever and it never will be. Complaints are never appreciated by anyone, the previous discussion is good proof. Assuming that the person who is complaining actually wants to see developers do something about the problems, I suggest considering this: The amount of useful information in a text of complaints is quite low. There is a high risk of actually discouraging people (including the developers) from reading these posts to the end, making it all useless. And even if they actually do read to the end, it partially will be a waste of time to process the information. In the end, all they can learn is what you're unhappy with.
Consider constructive criticism instead. You can keep it shorter, hence wasting less time. You can focus on the problem, suggesting possible solutions and so on. This way you're making it all more fruitful. With a friendly tone, as well as qualitative and consise information, you will allow the developers to work more effectively. And others may offer their view on it instead of arguing about something which had nothing to do with your experience in the first place. If you're doing it in any other way you're not helping anyone, not even yourself.
Simple as that.
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Hi,
I was product manager from 1 of the best company in Singapore. As product owner I never care what is complain, feedback, etc are. Without complain we can't improve the product even from users that doesn't know what "Technical Preview" is even sometime their complain really bad and make the developers feel mad and idiot. Sometime their complain really useful to improve the products and as a Developer should not think their complain to attack you BUT to challenge you, to motivate you to make better product and fix the bugs faster
Keeps improving your work, its really great product
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shame theres no 32bit version at the moment for older hardware
Vivaldi is 32-bit, and a 64-bit version is what many of us are asking for; then again, you could be emphasizing the "for older hardware" part.
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This browser is absolutely fantastic! Even tough it's just in the Tech Preview stage (meaning that it's not even in Beta), it's already closer to the old Presto Opera then the new and "improved" version.
Today, after finding out about Vivaldi, for the first time after the last Presto release, i feel complete and releaved that a real browser is in the works!
I sure hope that the devs of this little unpolished jewel will not drop support for Windows XP anytime in the near future…
All respect to the developers of this software.