Quit complaining people, it's a technical preview!!!!



  • I love the Vivaldi browser Found it thru slashdot website and decided to try it out, I love it!!! The complainers just need to keep it to yourself, it's a tech preview browser and for right now we take the good with the bad Course i'd like toolbars and extensions but i'm sure they will incorporate that eventually or come up with something better State your opions, report bugs or praise the browser but don't expect the full functionality of a tech preview browser brains!!!!! ZW



  • I think little people actually know or understand what a technical preview is even when they clearly explain in the website you will have bugs and glitches. Its expected when you decide to install a preview.

    Haters going to hate but I find it amazingly well build for a technical preview. So far there are only minor issues, nothing critical I found yet. Lets hope it keeps evolving into a mature product.



  • Complaining? Nah, we should just provide constructive feedback instead. Vivaldi is far from perfect (="Opera 12 on steroids") right now. That much is clear.

    The more feedback and suggestions we provide, the more probable it will be for Vivaldi to become the perfect browser for people who loved Opera 12 and maybe also for other power users.

    So let's do just that - test, test, test and provide feedback!



  • @Zombiewhisperer:

    I love the Vivaldi browser

    Found it thru slashdot website and decided to try it out, I love it!!!

    The complainers just need to keep it to yourself, it's a tech preview browser and for right now we take the good with the bad

    Course i'd like toolbars and extensions but i'm sure they will incorporate that eventually or come up with something better

    State your opions, report bugs or praise the browser but don't expect the full functionality of a tech preview browser

    brains!!!!!
    ZW

    Complaining? Most here enjoys that finally there is a chance for a worthy successor to the old Opera. People get excited and want to just help as quickly as possible bringing the browser into the stable version so try to report each even the smallest error.



  • @terere:

    I think little people actually know or understand what a technical preview is

    A technical preview gives an idea of what one can expect from the final.
    So some missing (basic) settings (which btw Chrome lacks as well) won't be available anytime soon if ever. :whistle:



  • I am not so sure about that. I don't know the exact definition of "technical preview", but what you describe sounds more like a feature-complete Beta version. I'm not 100% sure, but I consider a TP to be more like an Alpha or even pre-Alpha, where feature completeness has not yet been achieved.

    Am I mistaken?



  • After 24 hours testing Vivaldi I feel confident to say that the OP is wrong, we have every right to complain, Vivaldi comes with no disclaimer advising not to use it to do this or don't try to do that, so we test it and if it doesn't work we complain, I don't care if you call it alpha, beta or omega, you put it on the market, it has to work.
    Vivaldi's Tech Preview is a strange beast, it is not even an alpha, because even an alpha should allow the basic functionality of using numbers when you write without the side-effect of changing zoom level or switching between open tabs, this is ridiculous.
    Some people say ¨you cannot use it as your main browser¨
    I say you cannot use it at all, not even as your fifth browser, this is just a snapshot of the browser that will come, it has the potential to become my one and only browser - the way the real Opera was for so many years.



  • OMG :blink: Technical preview means "pre-alpha" or just "snapshot" as you've said. Therefore it's not supposed to be used for some serioud work, because it can (and probably will) containt some serious bugs. Do you really need some disclaimer? I still believe it's not neccessary to put signs like (attention, contains a milk" to a box with milk, but this is exactly what you want when you says "there is no disclaimer" - god, it's technical preview…
    So yes, you can and should report bugs and feature requests, go ahead. What's wrong is to wrap it with "it should work since it's production SW and you're stupid that it doesn't".



  • Guys, we are working on fixing bugs. Eventually it will become better and better, alpha software will always have issues. It's hard to get a good quality level without mass-testing :-)



  • @olli:

    Guys, we are working on fixing bugs. Eventually it will become better and better, alpha software will always have issues. It's hard to get a good quality level without mass-testing :-)

    I believe old Opera has so many fans that we can provide you massive testing. Just give us bugtracker to make it more firendly… ;)



  • We are working on getting the bug wizard up and running :-)



  • Well, on the main page where you download it, they do state it is far from finished. Compared to the technical previews Microsoft sometimes releases this one is actually for more complete than I expected. With some older IE previews it was not much more than just the render engine with an address bar.

    I have been using it the whole morning so far while developing (not for testing the site, but looking up information on the internet) and so far I like what I see.



  • @jendakol:

    Therefore it's not supposed to be used for some serioud work,

    writing an email where I type numbers it's not that ¨serious¨
    the side-effect of activating the zoom level or switching tabs when I type a number it's a joke.
    Vivaldi has so many features that a lot of stable releases out there don't have, let me make an example, when I click ¨compose¨ in my webmail I always get a new window in FF, Opera or whatever, when I tried that with Vivaldi it opened it in a new tab, I said to myself wow! amazing! then I start typing and the numbers make me go crazy. Let's hope the good stuff will remain and the bad stuff will soon be not even a memory.
    This is a unique project, I am thankful and happy that these people have decided the niche market we represent was worth the effort, but I have spent so much time in the last 18 months - after Opera died - switching browsers never finding a satisfying solution that I am eager to see Vivaldi fulfill its promise.



  • This zoom bug is annoying, just got notice of it today. Will have it fixed :-)



  • We are not complaining, we are just helping developers to find bugs and add features, which we (users) want



  • @TalGarik:

    After 24 hours testing Vivaldi I feel confident to say that the OP is wrong, we have every right to complain, Vivaldi comes with no disclaimer advising not to use it to do this or don't try to do that

    Which part of "download technical preview" you find confusing?

    Even if you don't know what a "technical preview" is, every person with the basic understanding of English should know what a "preview" is.

    It's like watching a teaser and complaining that the movie was too short.

    Don't complain. Report bugs, suggest features - that's what this preview is for.



  • Hi, when can we expect the next version (approximately), and how often are you going to release new version? You know I've been waiting for something like this for over a year so I just can not wait when I can test new versions ;)

    PS. Great we have some contact with the developers. The creators of a new Opera, unfortunately, are not willing to talk with the community :(



  • @TalGarik:

    writing an email where I type numbers it's not that ¨serious¨

    OK, this sounds like a serious bug ;-) Just report it and stay calm. I think at this moment it's neccessary to have another browser opened beside Vivaldi, because it doesn't allow me to enter some e.g. some internal company site. So keep it, try it but don't consider it as final product. That's all I wanted to say.



  • We will have frequent updates, similar to Opera "dev" releases or the old type "snapshots".

    Things will go smoother after a while, we just need things to go back to normal after the initial release :-)



  • @olli:

    This zoom bug is annoying, just got notice of it today. Will have it fixed :-)

    I had no doubt about that ;)


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