Solved Vivaldi randomly disconnects from the internet for up to 30s
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I run Vivaldi on both Windows and Linux, and this is only an issue on Windows (happens on both Windows 10 and Windows 11, across several installs on the same machine).
Randomly while browsing, I will go to open a link (usually in a new tab) and Vivaldi will lose access to the internet entirely across all tabs for up to 30 seconds. Nothing will load. Then everything will snap back into place and it'll go back to loading just fine.
Other chromium browsers (Edge, Chrome) don't have this problem, nor does Firefox.
I am assuming Vivaldi is using some custom DNS method that doesn't use my system specified DNS, but that's just a guess. I'd be grateful for any help in troubleshooting this problem for better information on what's happening.
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@pafflick Sorry for the late reply. I've been really busy lately and forgot all about this thread.
Long story short, turning off the "secure dns" implementation in
chrome://settingsmade the problem go away. I'm not sure what specifically about it was causing issues, but ever since I turned if off I haven't had the problem occur.Thanks for the reply, and I'm sorry again for not updating the post.
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I had this issue only on Linux but with 5.1 only, which is funny. No such behaviour with 5.2 any longer.
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/73296/vivaldi-won-t-connect-to-websites/
But I feel that Vivaldi is getting more and more buggy lately in general.
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@himmelssheriff The replies to your thread sure don't give me much confidence in getting actual help in this forum...
To stave off anybody asking: I have no web panels at all, and it happens with sync both enabled, and disabled. I've not tested a fresh profile, but I have only changed a couple default settings (mainly adding the download popup, and hiding the sidebar) and the only extension that's active on all pages is uBlock Origin which is installed on all of my browsers and doesn't cause a problem on any others.
Also, no I'm not talking about the known speed dial bug when first opening Vivaldi. This happens after minutes to hours of browsing, and seems completely random.
Edit: in the meantime, I've gone into
chrome://settingsand turned off secure DNS. I already use DNS-over-TLS system wide so a browser specific implementation is unnecessary and possibly the root of my problems. -
@daktyl Yes, the forum didn‘t give me much help. Eventually, it was a bug inherent in v 5.1. It stopped with update to 5.2 surprisingly. But that update came with new issues, so I‘ve gone back to Firefox in the end. Hope, they will get Vivaldi back on track, as it‘s not that reliable any longer, at least for me. I‘m afraid.
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@daktyl As for the troubleshooting, how far have you gone on the list? I'm using Vivaldi on two computers with Windows 10 and 11, and I never experienced anything similar. I don't recall reports from other Windows users as of recent either.
It could be something like a 3rd-party software or an extension, so it would be good to start by ruling these possibilities out. Start with a clean profile, and see if you're able to reproduce the issue there. -
@pafflick Sorry for the late reply. I've been really busy lately and forgot all about this thread.
Long story short, turning off the "secure dns" implementation in
chrome://settingsmade the problem go away. I'm not sure what specifically about it was causing issues, but ever since I turned if off I haven't had the problem occur.Thanks for the reply, and I'm sorry again for not updating the post.
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@Daktyl Glad, that I was looking in this forum and stumbled again about your post. I've already deinstalled Vivaldi because of that behaviour. It had become absolutely useless for me, as even with a totally new install on a fresh Linux system Vivaldi showed this issue. I'm getting used to Firefox and Brave rsp. but now there's glimpse of hope, that I may return to Vivaldi back again. Nevertheless - is there any technical explanation for this Vivaldi issue? Becaue it hasn't happened to me with any other browser I've used instead. And what does it technically mean to deactivate secure dns? May this cause any issue security wise? Thanks a lot.
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@Himmelssheriff
Hi, it block mainly the man in the middle attack because your connection and the DNS is encrypted.
I forgot wich is the default setting but I have it enabled all the time without problems. May you check the setting in Brave?
As far as I know the most internet provider use secure DNS anyway. The setting is only meaningful if you use a different DNS as your service provider. I don´t think it is a big security problem, those attacks like DoS happen mostly for companies or government agencies.Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin Brave has "secure dns" enabled.
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Speed of connections depend on Secure DNS providers.
I do not know which one is used by Brave.Internal Vivaldi setting
chrome://settings/securityhave some predefined ones and all work nice for me. No delays.♀ . Soprano Team (Vivaldi Volunteers) . Bug Hunter
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@DoctorG , I use most Quad9, works very well, secure and with very good speed.
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@Daktyl said in Vivaldi randomly disconnects from the internet for up to 30s:
Long story short, turning off the "secure dns" implementation in
chrome://settingsmade the problem go away. I'm not sure what specifically about it was causing issues, but ever since I turned if off I haven't had the problem occur.I've also had a lot of issues with Vivaldi lately, slowness being one of them, losing all my extensions and/or extension settings is another.
I'm going to try your secure dns disablement idea and see what happens. I think I oftentimes use providers that do not provide this protocol.
Thanks.
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@ImaginaryFreedom , a good DNS need two things, a good protection of privacy and against malware, apart of a good velocity.
There are a lot of free providers which offers a good velocity, but logging the user activity (Google 0,0,0,0, Cloudflare 1.1.1.1, AzureDNS (MS)...)
Because of this, I use providers like OpenDNS, Cyber Ghost, Quad9 among others, which offers a good protection and speed (speed is variable and change sometimes, depending the use of the corresponding servers, but the mencioned are almost on the top)
Here you have a list with the current free DNS servers you can try
There are some apps to benchmark and switch to different DNS servers, f.Exmpl DNS Jumper (Windows), which make it easy to find and switch to the fastest service with one click.
Also a good security app is Simple DNS Crypt, a standalone all in one DNScrypt client, to manage
the conectons and which switch aitomaticly to the fastes and safest DNS server -
Unfortunately disabling secure DNS didn't work for me. So it leaves me where I've begun. As I really liked to use Vivaldi, that's rather disappointing. Leaves me with Firefox, as I don't like Brave's crypto stuff. And Firefox has at least some customization features, that are equal to Vivaldi.
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It may sound crazy, but I could have found the reason for this issue. I've always thought, it had could have something to do with WhatsApp Web. So I tried disabling built-in adblocker and tracking protection on this particular site. And as of now, I had no problems with delay whatsoever.
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@Catweazle said in Vivaldi randomly disconnects from the internet for up to 30s:
@ImaginaryFreedom , a good DNS need two things, a good protection of privacy and against malware, apart of a good velocity.
There are a lot of free providers which offers a good velocity, but logging the user activity (Google 0,0,0,0, Cloudflare 1.1.1.1, AzureDNS (MS)...)
Because of this, I use providers like OpenDNS, Cyber Ghost, Quad9 among others, which offers a good protection and speed (speed is variable and change sometimes, depending the use of the corresponding servers, but the mencioned are almost on the top)
Here you have a list with the current free DNS servers you can try
There are some apps to benchmark and switch to different DNS servers, f.Exmpl DNS Jumper (Windows), which make it easy to find and switch to the fastest service with one click.
Also a good security app is Simple DNS Crypt, a standalone all in one DNScrypt client, to manage
the conectons and which switch aitomaticly to the fastes and safest DNS serverActually "chrome://settings" now seems to just redirect me to a webpage of standard Vivaldi settings.
I don't know if this is a recent change but I could swear I had accessed that setting and turned it off after reading this thread but now I cannot find it again.
Anyway, assuming I did actually disable it, it's not helping me much if at all either. It still has frequent delays opening webpages, and it still takes something like 60 seconds or more to launch and become usable on this admittedly not particularly fast 2012 i7 Mac Mini server without SSD.
As for secure DNS providers in general, this is a new thing that people just "discovered" the last few years or so. At home, I use an ISP I have been using for years and I know and have met in person a number of times the person that runs it, and I trust him. I am using their DNS resolvers which I trust far more than some random company online that claims to care about people's privacy who I will never meet any of the people involved.
When I'm traveling that's different of course, but as far as privacy invasions in the digital world go as far as I'm concerned DNS servers are way down on the priority list.
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@ImaginaryFreedom , well, my ISP also use their standart DNS which I trust less than tue one of Google (0.0.0.0), apart the privacy, also important is the speed and use one or another DNS server can duplicate the connection speed, there are great differences and more than 20 seconds between the slowest and the fastes one, depending on the charge of consults of the corresponding server and the infrastructure of the company of this DNS. Google DNS because of this is between the fastest, but isn't private, Quad9 is privacy oriented and is made by IBM, also with a big infrastructure in servers and also between the fastest, Not difficult which to use, I think.
