Snapshot 1.0.435.29 - Vivaldi 1.0 final RC1





  • Still, the problem with slideshows persist on this new build. Please, fix it before final edition. Go to this link entretenimento.r7.com/pop/fotos/anitta-e…12014-1?foto=3#fotos and you will see that the photos on this slideshow will not show up. This problem is only with vivaldi. Opera, Chrome and Firefox shows the photos on these kind of slideshow.

    Add , too, the behavior asked before: when closing an tab, make vivaldi go for the next tab on the tabs list, without going to the related tab or something else. Just go for the next tab on the list.

    Edit.: In my case, I open all tabs in an bookmark folders to navigate these sites one by one, following my bookmark order. Id like to navigate on these sites one by one without vivaldi sending me to "related tabs" when I close one tab, instead, of going by my tab list order. This is a pain for me and some users who like it the way im talking about. Please, consider atleast, add this as an option for tabs management.



  • @yro84:

    Still, the problem with slideshows persist on this new build. Please, fix it before final edition. Go to this link entretenimento.r7.com/pop/fotos/anitta-e…12014-1?foto=3#fotos and you will see that the photos on this slideshow will not show up. This problem is only with vivaldi. Opera, Chrome and Firefox shows the photos on these kind of slideshow.

    (snip)....

    Got your link from the Vivaldi blog
    fotos

    This worked for me after disabling my extensions (Ublock Origin AND Ghostery) and reloading the page.
    Vivaldi 1.0.435.29 (64) on Win 10 (64 bit).



  • @TbGbe:

    @yro84:

    Still, the problem with slideshows persist on this new build. Please, fix it before final edition. Go to this link entretenimento.r7.com/pop/fotos/anitta-e…12014-1?foto=3#fotos and you will see that the photos on this slideshow will not show up. This problem is only with vivaldi. Opera, Chrome and Firefox shows the photos on these kind of slideshow.

    (snip)....

    Got your link from the Vivaldi blog
    fotos

    This worked for me after disabling my extensions (Ublock Origin AND Ghostery) and reloading the page.
    Vivaldi 1.0.435.29 (64) on Win 10 (64 bit).

    I dont have any extentions on my vivaldi. The problem continues to happen only on vivaldi since early releases untill now. It needs to be fixed before final.



  • Not working here either Win10 X64 with Vivaldi X64

    Edit: now its working, I disabled ad block plus and when I click the thumbnails I can see big pictures.



  • @saudiqbal:

    Not working here either Win10 X64 with Vivaldi X64

    Edit: now its working, I disabled ad block plus and when I click the thumbnails I can see big pictures.

    Still not working in here and I have no plugins or extentions in vivaldi installation. Windows 7 PRO SP1 updated x64.

    Edit.: Vivaldi RC1 latest vuild x86.



  • Wonder if problem is specific to Win 7 ?



  • This is what I tried, load the page wait for like 30 seconds for it to load then click other thumbnails, then it will work.



    1. Address field Ctrl + X is still buggy (it omits http:// - in contrast to Ctrl + C)

    2. FF / FR buttons are buggy again since last few releases (not every time, but it happens randomly - on some sites more frequently than on others… [like msdn.microsoft.com / stackoverflow.com])

    3. "Window" menu height should be limited because it covers menu bar



  • I can't believe it. What's wrong with the Vivaldi? Have a look at this.
    Chrome open bookmarks menu immediately.
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    In Vivadi it takes couple of seconds
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    p.s. The bookmarks in Chrome and Vivaldi are the same. I have imported all my bookmarks from Chrome to Vivaldi.


  • Moderator

    What do you have there - a million bookmarks in folders? I have folders here with as many as 200 bookmarks in subfolders, and my bookmark interface responds instantaneously.

    I suppose if I dragged out one of my older, slower boxes, I could perceive a lag, but nothing like what is happening in your video. I can't explain how you have managed to get it so slow.



  • Another one annoying issue.
    Icon refresh in bookmarks bar.
    Chrome it's ok.
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    Vivaldy it's not ok.
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  • @Ayespy:

    What do you have there - a million bookmarks in folders? I have folders here with as many as 200 bookmarks in subfolders, and my bookmark interface responds instantaneously….

    Anyway it doesn't matter for the chrome how many bookmarks I have. Chrome opens it perfect with 200 or as you said 1 million.


  • Moderator

    Chrome is negotiating an integrated UI using native elements. Vivalidi is negotiating a UI built in technology foreign to Chrome, and using non-native elements. This introduces a nearly imperceptible lag into Vivaldi's response times. But it makes development speeds faster by an order of magnitude. The pace of Vivaldi development, and its responsiveness to users, is unmatched.

    HOWEVER, it's possible that huge amounts of data within the user profile are handled more slowly by Vivaldi under certain circumstances. The developers will be working on optimizing response-times in the UI once Ver. 1 Stable is released, but I, for one, have never seen anything LIKE the lag you demonstrated. So, if the developers wish to address this, it would help them to know: Is the hardware you are using from fifteen or twenty years ago? Do you have the largest bookmark dataset known to man? If they are to address a problem like this, they will need to know what the problem IS.



  • @Ayespy:

    … Is the hardware you are using from fifteen or twenty years ago? Do you have the largest bookmark dataset known to man? If they are to address a problem like this, they will need to know what the problem IS.

    My old PC based on AMD Athlon X2 is about 6-7 yrs old, but other one with Core i7 3,5 Mhz about 1 yrs old and I've tried on it - it's responding the same way. Total bookmarks count about 1500-2000.



  • @Ayespy:

    What do you have there - a million bookmarks in folders? I have folders here with as many as 200 bookmarks in subfolders, and my bookmark interface responds instantaneously.

    You don't need millions of them
    He's right - I don't use bookmarks bar, but I have checked - I got ~2 seconds lag
    I estimate that I got ~200-300 bookmarks on my old PC

    Testing PC specs:
    Win XP SP3 x86 / 4 GB RAM / Core 2 Duo 2.33 GHz
    Vivaldi 1.0.435.29 (32-bit)



  • So this is gonna be the final version?? :huh:
    Well, I can't say I'm thrilled, because it still if quite slow, and has some issues with some sites…... :dry:
    Ah, who cares, vivaldi is still better than chrome... :lol:
    I just hope that the final version is faster than this...... B)



  • Just keep in mind that an initial "Final" version relates more to 'stable' than to 'feature-rich' or 'ultra-fast'. There will be other Finals to come, just as there will be countless Betas and Snapshots to come. Features will be added, speed will be improved, bugs will be squashed, and usage creature-comforts will be added or refined.

    If Jon and the devs are in this for the long haul (and I believe they are, else they wouldn't have started this venture in the first place), then things will continue improving a chunk at a time. But… they will improve within a time-frame and context that makes sense to the Vivaldi team, in terms of all the factors (technical, business, and strategic) which they have to deal with.



  • @dodger:

    My old PC based on AMD Athlon X2 is about 6-7 yrs old, but other one with Core i7 3,5 Mhz about 1 yrs old and I've tried on it - it's responding the same way. Total bookmarks count about 1500-2000.

    I have about 5000 bookmarks in Opera 12.18 and it is showing no performance problems with that on a quite slow Atom N270. The bookmark handling is very efficient, despite those being stored inside a plaintext file, which weighs about 1.5 megabytes (so it's not really a huge amount of data for a computer with 2 GB of RAM). Sadly Opera Link is lost now.

    So I should refrain from importing those into Vivaldi?


  • Moderator

    @jtsn:

    @dodger:

    My old PC based on AMD Athlon X2 is about 6-7 yrs old, but other one with Core i7 3,5 Mhz about 1 yrs old and I've tried on it - it's responding the same way. Total bookmarks count about 1500-2000.

    I have about 5000 bookmarks in Opera 12.18 and it is showing no performance problems with that on a quite slow Atom N270. The bookmark handling is very efficient, despite those being stored inside a plaintext file, which weighs about 1.5 megabytes (so it's not really a huge amount of data for a computer with 2 GB of RAM). Sadly Opera Link is lost now.

    So I should refrain from importing those into Vivaldi?

    That seems hard to say. I have now tested bookmarks response time with my 1500 or so bookmarks on my two oldest, weakest boxes - an X86 Win 10 laptop 12 years old with a dual-core Pentium T2310 at 1.466 GHz and 2 GB of RAM; and a 13-year old Lubuntu X86 tower containing an Intel P4 @ 3.0 GHz and 2GB of RAM. On both of these PCs, bookmarks response is snappy. It is not totally free of perceptible lag like my more modern everyday rig is, but the delay is in the range of a tenth of a second or less on both of these.

    Users above have now reported severe delays with as few as 200-300 bookmarks, on much stronger machines than the two I tried.

    Up to now, in 15 months of snapshot releases, I have not heard of bookmarks folder lists taking anything like 2 seconds to open, so I think the problem is rare. But with 5000 bookmarks, who knows? I would say you are totally safe to import them and if it gums things up, delete your bookmark file and begin again.


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