Vivaldi teams up with Neeva for ad-free private search
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We have added new player Neeva as a default search engine option for a totally ad-free search experience, now on both desktop and Android.
Click here to see the full blog post
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Another recurring charge? Seems like the only way to purchase technology today is through a monthly payment of some sort. It's like a sack of berries with holes popping out on the bottom of the sack. My wife & I are non-profit ministers, so this monthly charge will hurt. I'll pay $5 one-time, but not every month. I'd love to try it out, but not by paying every month. Times are hard. Can't do it. Sorry.
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@cross1 Fortunately, there's still DuckDuckGo and StartPage.
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Yes. I use DuckDuckGo.
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FIXED IT:
@tatsuki said in Vivaldi teams up with Neeva for ad-free private search:
We have added new player Neeva as a default search engine option for a totally ad-free search for only 4.95 amoth after the first 3 months.
Click here to see the full blog post
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Thank you for integrating Vivaldi in Android mobile. I have been using Neeva for several months now. Paying $5/month is well worth the search quality and a strong privacy step for anyone. Plus, you actually get results without scrolling half way down the page to skip ads. Thank you!
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Another provider charging 'only' $5 a month, yeah, no, I haven't seen an ad in years and DuckDuckGo exists, single one off payment, maybe, but $5 a month nah, I don't see this as a viable business model, but I may be wrong, I wish them luck it's a valid aim at least.
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@christiehmalry Don't speak so fast. So far, I'm impressed enough with this search-engine that I may be willing to pay $5 per month. I like that you can pick what news sites you want to see more of, and less of.
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@eggcorn I must admit being able to prune some of the nonsense might be good.
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I absolutely approve of developers making a living via whatever model works best for them and their customers as long as there's full, open, honest transparency about how the money is distributed, who gets a cut, etc., so users can make their own educated consumer choices.
You're asking us to trust you and a third party some of us had never heard of before this announcement. What details and facts are provided to help us know we can or should trust Neeva?
For the sake of transparency, what portion of the 5 bucks is kicked back to Vivaldi, directly or indirectly, and how?
I'll certainly do some research on Neeva. I'll gladly help support them with a subscription if the information I find is enough for my comfort. Although $5/month is steep, so Neeva needs to make me feel extremely engaged as a consumer. Removing ads, trackers and unwanted links is not enough of a product; plenty of alternatives exist that do that for free, and many who offer a lot more for a lot less than $60/year.
But I believe it's really on you, Vivaldi, to do that kind of research and share the results openly with your user base beforehand, or included with the release notes.
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Anyone know of a search engine that promises not to suppress dissent and alternative views (aka "misinformation")?
I'm interested in seeing what Google (and maybe Neeva?) go out of their way to NOT display, or bury on page 50 of the results.
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@viva2022 There's Right Dao, they say that the won't. And I'm inclined to believe them. For one thing, they have their own web crawler. They don't get their results from Google or Bing. Here's an article about Right Dao: "New Search Engine Develops Tech to Display Uncensored Results Without Tracking User Data" by Nicole Hao.
Neeva does get their search results from Bing. However, they do let you pick what news sites you want to see more of, and less of. So that looks promising too.
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I agree with Cross1. I will pay a modest one-time fee for a decent, "private" search engine. But I'm not going to pay a recurring monthly fee. I already pay a subscription fee for a VPN that helps me dodge most location based Ad's. It reports my location as being wherever the server I connect to, says it is. The truth is, even when Ad's do show up, I've ignored them for so long I don't even notice them.
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The issue with search is ALWAYS the depth of the data scraping. I'm not a fan of Google's putting lots of ads at the top, but they are generally better at finding what I am actually looking for. And they do it faster.
As to paying, it is all about added value. Will I pay to avoid ads? Maybe. If the company is actually better (as in better results) than the free choice. I pay for Google One which gives me more capacity and other features. I haven't read anything that is worth $60 per year.
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~$5 a month is simply absurd. There SHOULD be enough users at $1 a month to be plenty - even less than that at $10 a year - absurd greed aside. And for those of us retired, on a Social Security fixed income it's REALLY absurd.
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@soundoctor nobody forces you to use a paid-for service, use all the other free alternatives out there.
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I get that free-ad devs need to get money from somewhere else... but dunno, I'll stick with DuckDuckGo.
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