How to collect mail
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With one exception, webmail hasn't collected mail once. Clicking the "circle of arrows" icon doesn't do anything, If there's a keystroke alternative(sure there is), I can't find that in the Help material. I currently use check mail every minute and... nothing.
The mail account I'm using is a gmail account. I'm logged into my Google account.
Seems to me mail should come in, or at least the "fetching" tags should show up. At the moment, nothing. I forwarded something to my gmail account, so I'm sure there's something waiting for me.
Suggestions? Answers?
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@rbemerson could you post a Screenshot of your account setup with the data sensitive stuff redacted?
Potential easy fix: if you have selected "offline accout", that one box needs to be unchecked.
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@rbemerson said in How to collect mail:
webmail hasn't collected mail once
Are you talking about webmail (which to my knowledge cannot collect mail from other accounts - though I could be wrong on that, but I don't see how) or the Vivaldi built-in email client we refer to as M3? Because I collect mail constantly using this client from 3 gmail accounts, all day, every day.
Perhaps your setup is faulty.
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"Offline account" wasn't and isn't checked.
Good point regarding terminology. I'm having problems with "Mail (Beta)". Is this AKA M3?
This one of those "fixes itself" problems. For example, this morning, I started Vivaldi, logged in with Google, and opened up Mail. The message forwarded from another account (not included in the list of one account Mail knows about) wasn't available.
I clicked the manual refresh and... nothing. No message, no "fetching" blinking on and off. I poked around in the folders to see if the fowarded message was hiding somewhere. It wasn't. I went into setup and changed from "every fifteen minutes" to "every minute". Still no signs of life.
After a few minutes, the problem "fixed itself", and mail came in as expected. And it's been happening since then.
Polling once a minute doesn't seem to have fixed the problem, but something I did started Mail collecting mail, and it's been collecting it ever since.
Does any of this sound familiar?
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@rbemerson There was a problem, over a year ago, where if the server handshake failed after a while, M3 just quit trying silently unless/until you re-started the browser. To my knowledge, that was fixed. I have not seen it in a long time. But I wonder if it just took this long for GMail to acknowledge the attempted connection. That's also something I've seen GMail do in the past, for no discernable reason.
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@ayespy said in How to collect mail:
But I wonder if it just took this long for GMail to acknowledge the attempted connection.
I feel like I should know this but I don't... How do we create a log file for the connection? In M2 we could just add a file location to the incoming log file line in accounts.ini
@RBEmerson some of us here on the forum like to call it M3, myself included, for reasons of reference to M2 brevity, and clear distinction to webmail. But the official name is Vivaldi mail, and I haven't seen Vivaldi staff call it M3 here. Consider M3 a fan nickname
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@wildente I literally don't know how you'd create the log. I don't use "Vivaldi Mail" at all, because it does not clearly distinguish from webmail, which users already mix up entirely too much. For me, it's "mail client" or M3."
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@ayespy said in How to collect mail:
@rbemerson There was a problem, over a year ago, where if the server handshake failed after a while, M3 just quit trying silently unless/until you re-started the browser. To my knowledge, that was fixed. I have not seen it in a long time. But I wonder if it just took this long for GMail to acknowledge the attempted connection. That's also something I've seen GMail do in the past, for no discernable reason.
This is almost what's happening. The difference is how I sign back into Google.
Because I have a Mail tab present when I launch Vivaldi, it (no surprise) wants me to log into Google. The problem happens when I pause to launch LastPass to fill in the mail & password. LastPass doesn't seem to be aware of the existing "sign on" window, so it doesn't have the "click this icon to log in" icon.
"Oh, well", said I, "toss that window, and let LP launch a Google 'sign on' window. As long as I'm logged in to Google, all is well." Not!
By tossing Vivaldi's "sign on" window, Mail never got its information about the passwords it needs, and... the wheels fell off.
This time, I paused in filling out the window Vivaldi put up, copied the password from LP's vault, pasted it into the Vivaldi Google "sign on" window, and... the wheels stay on, the mail comes in.
Two take-aways: 1) not all Google logins are treated the same by Vivaldi Mail (not a great surprise), 2) LP doesn't know how to retroactively fill in the Vivaldi-presented window.
Action item: Mail needs to give notice about not having the correct password for any of the mail accounts it services. It needs a way to be sure missed passwords are supplied as needed.
I don't see a way that LP is going to almost get in a time machine, go back when Vivaldi created its "sign on" window, and insert its icons or fill in as needed.
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@rbemerson You can go to Settings/mail/)account)/Servers and put in the missing password again. That said, mine simply always stays logged-in, and I don't have to log in each time I start the browser. Your use of LastPass and perhaps a setting like session-only cookies may be preventing that.
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Yes/no. Yes, it can be done. No, not part of using LastPass to minimize password exposure.
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