Vivaldi ignores existence of national characters…



  • [b]It's really annoying that Vivaldi totally ignores fact that national characters are different than standard ones...[/b] Scenario 1: Try to find word on website [img]http://i.imgur.com/0Ti79I4.png[/img] Result: fake matches everywhere... It's serious UX flaw Scenario 2: Try to quick find bookmark folder while adding bookmark [img]http://i.imgur.com/51CwZ8k.png[/img] Result: I am unable to select right item just by typing and have to scroll aaaall the list and click folder manually.... :pinch: :pinch: :pinch:



  • In chrome://settings/search#L you can find 'Languages' and there 'Language and input settings…'. Polish is a possibility there and spellchecking is an option. If it really helps, I don't know but it's probably worth a try.


  • Moderator

    Yes, this is a known problem for search on Chromium-like browsers, too. But i dont know the Chrome bug number, sorry.
    Diacritic characters are not found correctly.
    May be fixed in some Chromium version later.
    If described this in http://labs.gwendragon.de/blog/Web/Browser/Vivaldi/dieresis.html

    Found the search problem in Vivaldi Bugdatabase as VB-11097 "Search box don't distinguish national characters" and the problem with the dropdown as VB-11095 "Bookmarks folder combobox inside popup (address bar) can't handle national characters"



  • @RJules3:

    In chrome://settings/search#L you can find 'Languages' and there 'Language and input settings…'. Polish is a possibility there and spellchecking is an option. If it really helps, I don't know but it's probably worth a try.

    I got "polish" selected in this list but unfortunately this problem is not about spellchecking / dictionary but letter recognising mechanisms…

    Maybe this is related to chromium / engine - in new Opera Ctrl+F behaves similar... (but I think that it's just stupid and non user-friendly - Firefox in-page search distinguish accented letters)

    But lack of national letter support in lookup incremental search is just frustrating...

    @Gwen-Dragon:

    Yes, this is a known problem for search on Chromium-like browsers, too. But i dont know the Chrome bug number, sorry.
    Diacritic characters are not found correctly.
    May be fixed in some Chromium version later.
    If described this in http://labs.gwendragon.de/blog/Web/Browser/Vivaldi/dieresis.html
    Found the search problem in Vivaldi Bugdatabase

    Mhmm… :(
    I treat this thread as a place to paste screenshots / examples



  • Please don't support anglocentrism by calling the characters used in English "standard characters"! All characters in Unicode are standard. And many non-English characters (e.g. "ü", "é", "ç" or "木") are not "national" either, as each of them is used in plenty of different nations.

    Sorry for the nitpick, I'm not a basher on English and in fact I think its universalization has been a boon, thanks to it we can be talking here even if we come from different corners of the globe. But this idea that English characters are the "standard" and the rest are exotic rarities that should be addressed as a second thought is really harmful, with consequences like Chromium search not working properly. (and I know you don't support that idea, but you are unconsciously using language from people that do!)


  • Moderator

    You are right, Unicode characters are not national at all.
    But f. ex. some of us regard a Ä as a locale character belonging to German languages family, may be calling it national is very dumb/nopt precise/incorrect ;)

    Yes, the Chromium search is broken. But i think this will be fixed after first Vivaldi Final. Sorry to say this.


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