minimal browser
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Vivaldi has the option of reducing the features it shows to make it look minimalistic. but that doesn't make it a minimal browser. it still takes 1.4 GB on your hard drive. there is a need for a small, light, simple, no-frills "toolbox" browser that can perform 90% of browser tasks. render HTML5, Java, maybe Flash too.
examples: K-Meleon, Maxathon
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@callimachus That is not Vivaldi's mission. If you want a bare-bones browser then use one of those.
Vivaldi is more than a browser, it is an entire Internet suite, as was the old Opera 12.x.
TechCrunch: (January 27th 2015):
“The former CEO of Opera, Jon von Tetzchner, has released the Vivaldi Browser for fans of the old Opera. This initial release is a Technical Preview, i.e. it is neither feature complete, nor free from bugs that might spoil your day. It uses the Chromium rendering engine like the new Opera 38. It already has Panels, Tab-stacking, Notes, Speed Dial, and Customisable shortcuts and Tabs. Built-in email is planned, but mail is limited to web mail at the moment.”
The option of enabling a reduced feature set is available for those who don't need mail, feeds, calendars, etc.
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@callimachus There are already K-Melon and Maxthon. No need for a minimal browser. Vivaldi is not, and was (/will be) never intended to be minimal.
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whiff! right over your heads
look, if I say "how about a minimal browser" I mean "how about a minimal browser". you don't have to give me static about "that isn't it's mission" or "won't ever be that" or "use those other ones then" or blah blah.
an ultralight version of Vivaldi would be nice.
understand?
try not to be a jerk when saying no. if you can do that.
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@callimachus We just saved you a whole lot of time. If a minimalist browser is what you want look elsewhere.
Who cares about disk space these days? About 1.13 GB (1,215,676,416 bytes on disk) is what the browser uses (Application and User Data folders), but with browsing data that could soon be a lot more. Caching data is vital to provide speed.
Speed matters, but the speed of rendering of pages depends more on your Internet connection than how a program is coded. Vivaldi has an extra layer to make it customisable and more private. If you don't want that, then use Chrome.
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@callimachus said in minimal browser:
try not to be a jerk when saying no. if you can do that.
What about trying not to be a jerk when others say no? The first jerky comment I read in this thread was this last one of yours
I'm not going to comment on what I think should or should not be done. But I did check my hard drive (Win 10) and Vivladi is only taking about 550MB on mine. Sure, my profile folder is several dozens of GB, but considering I have email, keep my temporary files for weeks and am constantly on the web, it's probably not to be surprised...
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@callimachus said in minimal browser:
an ultralight version of Vivaldi would be nice.
understand?Putting aside your attitude: No, I don't understand. What would the difference be between an ultralight version of Vivaldi, and K-Meleon or Maxathon?
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@callimachus No one is being a jerk. There will not be a "minimal" Vivaldi. You're welcome.
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@callimachus , I don't understand this 1.4 Gb either, Vivaldi is about a third of this size, but naturally it depends on the saved files, history and the extensions you use, which maybe also save certain data.
You cannot expect to use a browser that is almost an online OS, that is as light as the MIN Browser, which is little more than a window with a search engine.
If you don't want or need these features that Vivaldi has, you can use any of the other Chromium browsers that offer privacy and security, for example the UR browser that I use as a second, and see how much space it occupies after using it daily, without cleaning the histories and other accumulated data. -
@callimachus said in minimal browser:
it still takes 1.4 GB on your hard drive
Fake fact, it takes 320MiB here.
But I'm in the pleasant position to provide you the lightest Vivaldi version:
vivaldi-stable --disable-vivaldi
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@healingcross , there are many users who not only surf the net, but work and study with the help of the internet and of course they do not see the Vivaldi tools and functions as unnecessary, they use the management of tabs, hibernation, web panel, splitscreen, feed reader, mailclient , screenshot, etc. as something essential for them.
For those who use it to navigate, participate in social networks and check the mail, naturally Vivaldi is over-trained, for these users any other browser provides the same services.
But keep in mind that Vivaldi, despite all the features it has, uses considerably less system resources than Chrome and a lot of other Chromiums.. -
@healingcross , nobody use all the features/functions in Vivaldi, but you can hide this functions, if you don't use them, the impactin the OS system isn't a factor to eliminate this functions definitivly, because the impact in system recources of this features a minimal, and less than use extensions (and more private).
For this reason I am not concerned with the functions that I do not use. -
@healingcross , I have hidden the Status bar for a long time, it is certainly not necessary at all, since you can put all the icons in the Adress bar where they are much easier to access. The only thing that cannot be put elsewhere is the Zoom slider, but for this anyway I use Ctrl + Scroll, the Url of a link appears in a small Pop-Up, apart from this, there are no problems that interferes with the OS task bar, which pops up, if it is not pointed correctly with the mouse.