Vivaldi has the option of reducing the features it shows to make it look minimalistic. but that doesn't make it a minimal browser. it still takes 1.4 GB on your hard drive. there is a need for a small, light, simple, no-frills "toolbox" browser that can perform 90% of browser tasks. render HTML5, Java, maybe Flash too.
examples: K-Meleon, Maxathon
@callimachus That is not Vivaldi's mission. If you want a bare-bones browser then use one of those.
Vivaldi is more than a browser, it is an entire Internet suite, as was the old Opera 12.x.
TechCrunch: (January 27th 2015):
“The former CEO of Opera, Jon von Tetzchner, has released the Vivaldi Browser for fans of the old Opera. This initial release is a Technical Preview, i.e. it is neither feature complete, nor free from bugs that might spoil your day. It uses the Chromium rendering engine like the new Opera 38. It already has Panels, Tab-stacking, Notes, Speed Dial, and Customisable shortcuts and Tabs. Built-in email is planned, but mail is limited to web mail at the moment.”
The option of enabling a reduced feature set is available for those who don't need mail, feeds, calendars, etc.
@callimachus There are already K-Melon and Maxthon. No need for a minimal browser. Vivaldi is not, and was (/will be) never intended to be minimal.
whiff! right over your heads
look, if I say "how about a minimal browser" I mean "how about a minimal browser". you don't have to give me static about "that isn't it's mission" or "won't ever be that" or "use those other ones then" or blah blah.
an ultralight version of Vivaldi would be nice.
try not to be a jerk when saying no. if you can do that.
@callimachus We just saved you a whole lot of time. If a minimalist browser is what you want look elsewhere.
Who cares about disk space these days? About 1.13 GB (1,215,676,416 bytes on disk) is what the browser uses (Application and User Data folders), but with browsing data that could soon be a lot more. Caching data is vital to provide speed.
Speed matters, but the speed of rendering of pages depends more on your Internet connection than how a program is coded. Vivaldi has an extra layer to make it customisable and more private. If you don't want that, then use Chrome.
try not to be a jerk when saying no. if you can do that.
What about trying not to be a jerk when others say no? The first jerky comment I read in this thread was this last one of yours
I'm not going to comment on what I think should or should not be done. But I did check my hard drive (Win 10) and Vivladi is only taking about 550MB on mine. Sure, my profile folder is several dozens of GB, but considering I have email, keep my temporary files for weeks and am constantly on the web, it's probably not to be surprised...
Where did you get that 1.4GB from?
@callimachus No one is being a jerk. There will not be a "minimal" Vivaldi. You're welcome.
@callimachus , I don't understand this 1.4 Gb either, Vivaldi is about a third of this size, but naturally it depends on the saved files, history and the extensions you use, which maybe also save certain data.
You cannot expect to use a browser that is almost an online OS, that is as light as the MIN Browser, which is little more than a window with a search engine.
If you don't want or need these features that Vivaldi has, you can use any of the other Chromium browsers that offer privacy and security, for example the UR browser that I use as a second, and see how much space it occupies after using it daily, without cleaning the histories and other accumulated data.
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I've just found out, that to make Vivaldi 4.0 usable for me again, I have to modify it that it almost looks like a branded version of Firefox. So why then using Vivaldi any longer, as some of the Firefox features are working at least better or on par with Vivaldi's? Say screenshot, private mode, Facebook container e.g.
Giving the option to choose between "minimal", "classical" and "full featured" isn't a real choice, btw. It's only eyecandy as it is only about hiding features that are built in.
True, Vivaldi has always been intended to be with mail and calendar. But I've always hoped they would come to their senses or would delay it for so long, that no one ever wanted it.
But as commentaries in this section lay bare, it's quite the contrary. Vivaldi has gone miles mainly for these users, that want all this included and much more. It may not mean a bloat of diskspace, but it certainly is getting a growing bloat of features, that you have to disable in order to use the whole browser thing. I could name Vivaldia, breakbutton, timer.
But when mail and calendar have come to be at least as important as the browser itself, then it seems to me, that browser only users are lost out of sight. Why not better using resources to build an iOS version? That would have helped me much more.
I've come to the point of disappointment with the latest release. I've been with Vivaldi almost more than three years even to the point of donating a small amount, using it extensively. But I came to realize, that using a webbrowser is about browsing the web, right? A browser is a window to the web and not something where you have to draw dozens of curtains away, so that you might still see something.
I could live with a more minimal or reduced form of Vivaldi, but still, that's not where things are going, and I'm not the kind of user that is intended. So after leaving and regretting, coming back and leaving again, this time it finally means leaving.
Good luck to all.
@healingcross , there are many users who not only surf the net, but work and study with the help of the internet and of course they do not see the Vivaldi tools and functions as unnecessary, they use the management of tabs, hibernation, web panel, splitscreen, feed reader, mailclient , screenshot, etc. as something essential for them.
For those who use it to navigate, participate in social networks and check the mail, naturally Vivaldi is over-trained, for these users any other browser provides the same services.
But keep in mind that Vivaldi, despite all the features it has, uses considerably less system resources than Chrome and a lot of other Chromiums..
@catweazle I get the point. That's what I said about the intended user. I've get most of my work done without many of these extras, I'm even not encouraged to use an email client for my work e-mails, but rather use the web.
I see that there's a segment of users who might want all this stuff. It would have made sense to me, ten years ago, too. A time, when mobile wasn't present as it actually is and when webservices were'nt nearly half as good as they're today. But nowadays I check e-mails and keep my calendar with multiple devices and the underlying services are much more important than the software.
But syncing my Vivaldi on my iPhone would still be a thing.
I have to admit, that a striped down version looks rather clean. Which might be a reason to keep Vivaldi on some machines still installed as to use it as a secondary browser. But after using Firefox now for a while I realize that I'm served well without most of the Vivaldi extras.
@healingcross , nobody use all the features/functions in Vivaldi, but you can hide this functions, if you don't use them, the impactin the OS system isn't a factor to eliminate this functions definitivly, because the impact in system recources of this features a minimal, and less than use extensions (and more private).
For this reason I am not concerned with the functions that I do not use.
I'm hanging somewhere between minimal and classic. Disabled the status bar. And I've discovered only today two features that are really awesome:
- transparent and blurred tab bar
- this small button to display and hide the panel, when you no longer have this status bar
Maybe there's still more to Vivaldi than enabling oder disabling the mail feature.
@healingcross , I have hidden the Status bar for a long time, it is certainly not necessary at all, since you can put all the icons in the Adress bar where they are much easier to access. The only thing that cannot be put elsewhere is the Zoom slider, but for this anyway I use Ctrl + Scroll, the Url of a link appears in a small Pop-Up, apart from this, there are no problems that interferes with the OS task bar, which pops up, if it is not pointed correctly with the mouse.