Why do I miss this so much?



  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrVvZX2nss8 :( :( :( I really hope Vivaldi gets a master password (encrypting the login manager) and that maybe someone day you can also organize tabs inside the browser like you could with Opera. There are just so many things I miss from Opera 12... You can really see the quality in the little details like that. Example is how it shows the certificate information and secure connections lock in the url, so much better than anything back then and which options where as default in the tabs or the right click menu.


  • Moderator

    You will get or even have the most of features similar to Opera 12.
    But hey are not all complete. Much has to be improved to be "Vivaldi - Browser for Friends".

    Did you try current Snapshot?
    What is missing for you (except master password)?



    • A proper spell checker like Opera 12 which can detect the language of the page and select automatically the language in the spell checker.
    • A proper login manager that is secure, this means that encrypts the logins with no reversible hash and encryption (you lose the master password and its gone) that is the only way I would consider it using it. Both Chrome and Edge/Explorer, are not secure, you can recover logins. Firefox with Master Password does this. The password has to act as the encryption key.
    • Detach tabs and better management for moving them around monitors
    • Better visualization of secure pages, this includes the lock and the certificate information. Opera 12 also showed extended validation SSL way nicer than any other browser
    • More snappy and faster, like Opera 12 was, the Vivaldi interface has lag and is not snappy
    • Better CPU performance, using more RAM is acceptable for me but not CPU and surely not drives as it will kill SSD drives faster. Vivaldi had problems with this before.
    • Isolated tabs (one website crashes the whole Vivaldi browser). Ouch. Not critical but still would be nice.
    • One click to organize all tabs vertically or horizontal, right now you need to stack them first, I prefer this to be faster or one click away
    • The search box is not properly implemented, example, it will not remember the choice and always go back to default, it also does not allow you to quickly switch the search engine like Firefox does with your keyboard or mouse, you type and can switch to any search option without having to know them first
    • Proper developer tools
    • Better font rendering
    • Let you move some buttons to other places, example, zoom bar to the top bar.
    • Opera Turbo, this was actually nice for slow connections.
    • Sync will be nice in the feature, but I assume we need a Vivaldi Mobile for that first.

    Its not the big things I miss from Opera, but the small details that made it so different.



  • Opera turbo is NOT a property of the browser. It was a whole proxying service set up in the internet to which you were connecting.

    And you forgot "a non-eyestraining interface".



    • A proper spell checker like Opera 12 which can detect the language of the page and select automatically the language in the spell checker.

    The spell checker is, since December or so, even better than opera's one. Indeed it can check mixed languages at the same time, just like the xperia keyboard on android phones.

    • Detach tabs and better management for moving them around monitors

    Already implemented (see the contextual menu on tabs)

    • Let you move some buttons to other places, example, zoom bar to the top bar.

    That will come, but don't hold your breath. Mail, sync, and other things will likely come first

    • Opera Turbo, this was actually nice for slow connections.

    There are some third party compressed proxies, but yes an in house feature would be preferred

    • Sync will be nice in the feature, but I assume we need a Vivaldi Mobile for that first.

    Although very useful for mobiles, sync is useful for desktops as well.

    I think that a plugin/extension for an existing browser on android would be a nice thing for start. But that's, for now, is just a my hope. Is too early to have something of concrete about that.



  • So cool Opera 12 video!

    @terere:

    • Let you move some buttons to other places, example, zoom bar to the top bar.

    +1



  • @The_Solutor:

    • Detach tabs and better management for moving them around monitors

    Already implemented (see the contextual menu on tabs)

    Appreciate this, but it is still a very "pedestrian" way of doing this. For example, in Chrome you can simply shift select any number of tabs and simply drag them out of their current window into a new one. In Vivaldi, I need to do right click, select "Move to", then again click a desired new window. For 10 tabs, that's at least 20 clicks. Hope you plan and are able to copy how it is done in Chrome.



  • @davort:

    For 10 tabs, that's at least 20 clicks.

    Not if they are adjacent, I make it just five clicks. Not too bad IMO. More will come later.
    [ol]

    • Click first tab
    • Shift + Click Last Tab
    • Right-click tab bar
    • Move to
    • New Window, select window
      [/ol]


  • Tried that, as you suggested, but it didn't work. Still, only moved that one tab that I clicked on, even tho all the menus accounted for all shift-selected tabs. Can you make a video of this working for you?

    Also, when you say "Right-click tab bar", you actually mean "tabs", not the bar itself, since that'll do absolutely nothing relevant.



  • You're right. It doesn't work as the menu says: "Move (n) tabs to new window." Only one tab is actually moved.

    Still work in progress.


Log in to reply
 

Looks like your connection to Vivaldi Forum was lost, please wait while we try to reconnect.