Supporting Vivaldi by Searches
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I'd like to try some different search engines, but also want to continue supporting Vivaldi. What’s Vivaldi’s business model? says:
Every time you search using one of the pre-installed search engines, you’re helping us grow, one search at a time. Currently, we work with DuckDuckGo, Qwant, Ecosia, Startpage, Yahoo!, Bing, and Yandex.
However, I don't see Qwant or Yandex pre-installed in Settings. Have agreements with these two search engines terminated? Or is this just an oversight? Can they be relisted?
It looks like the key to Vivaldi getting credit is a URL with special added code (e.g. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%s&t=vivaldi – which I use in other browsers as well
), so I assume just using the basic URL such as yandex.com doesn't do anything for Vivaldi.
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@HandyMac The blog post is outdated. Qwant is no longer a Vivaldi's partner.
You can still install & use Qwant, but Vivaldi won't earn anything from it.
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[Off topic] Last time I tried Ecosia, last week, it wanted me to complete an [EXPLITIVE] Captcha.
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@greybeard Yeah, Ecosia is being too careful with some searches, it's not good for their users. For instance this search will always throw up a captcha:
https://www.ecosia.org/search?q=http://
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@Pathduck @hlehyaric Doesn't matter to me anymore. If that is their policy I will not be using them.
Perhaps we should do a Friday Quiz?
Should these concerns go to Vivaldi Team?I realize they are entitled to do what they want but if V's users abandon Ecosia, that's revenue lost.
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@greybeard I just submitted a question to Ecosia feedback about the http:// search term posted by Pathduck.
Can you tell us what you were searching for that showed a captcha or was it too [expletive] to post here?
I have never encountered the problem before.
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@Pesala Actually rather mundane... I was looking for various ingredients and recipes so we could change up the meal plan.
I can't recall what specifically caused but the Captcha was enough to make me to explere an [EXPLITIVE] and take a different search engine.
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@greybeard said in Supporting Vivaldi by Searches:
Friday Quiz?
Maybe worth to mention @Gaëlle to submit your idea ?
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@Ornorm Good idea.
I will put something together tonite with reference to this thread, so it will be available to her when she gets in.
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I sent Ecosia an email last July about the Captcha. After answering the obligatory (in this case obviously unnecessary) questions about browser and OS, I heard nothing. A week later I updated the query asking what was happening. Not heard anything since then. So I wouldn't keep my hopes up anything will happen, unless Vivaldi directly contacts them.
Funny thing is, the Captcha says "IP Blocked" but it clearly isn't - as I can just search for something like "test" directly after and it's fine.
If it's going to block any request searching for anything more complex than "nearest kebab shop" they might as well give up. Ecosia is still set as default search for me but I find myself reaching more often for the 'G' key, at least then I know results will be good ...
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@Ornorm I would like to use the D more but the results are not as good unfortunately. Search quality is what made the G big and unless the others up their game it will remain so.
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@Pathduck Are you sure that search results are good? What if Google gets revenue for listing some results before others? Would that ensure the best results?
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@Pesala It works for finding the stuff I want to find, quickly and easily. I'm a pragmatist, I use what works the best for me.
Ed: That being said, I think Ecosia gives pretty good clean results, and would like to use it more. After all I still keep it as the default search in Vivaldi. I just tend to fall back to the G more often than not for the complex searches, especially since I know the search operators by heart and know they work which is not a given for some of the others.
