FingerprintJS Pro
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@code3 , the fingerprint changes depending on which server you connect to, even if it's from the same country, what they get is the fingerprint from this server, not mine.
CyDecI try in the past, but as you say, the protection is too much. As homepage itself says, it is an app rather for the protection of companies and less for a normal user.
But, as we're always in them, you can't expect 100% privacy when you connect to the network and want the sites you visit to remain functional, it's always to find a balance between privacy and the data we're willing to filter.
Personally I think that with Vivaldi ad/tracking blocker with a few more filters and Trace there is sufficient protection in normal use, using the VPN in a timely manner.
The rest depends on myself and my behavior on the network and the services I use.
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@Catweazle said in FingerprintJS Pro:
If you want more, you can't use the internet, simple.
Of course
@Catweazle said in FingerprintJS Pro:
the fingerprint changes depending on which server you connect to, even if it's from the same country, what they get is the fingerprint from this server, not mine.
Yes, but how did you test this? FingerprintJS Pro tracks me across IP addresses, on and off of Tor, with do not track turned on and off, with Trace enabled, with randomized User Agent strings, with different languages, and without cookies.
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However, I just tested it, with Tor and Trace and with a Private window, and it gives a different fingerprint each time I open and close a Private Window. So, I am getting somewhere.
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@code3 , same in Vivaldi, also a diferent FP in private window, as I say, Tor do not protect you really, but a VPN do.
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@Catweazle Okay. Does FingerprintJS Pro give you a different fingerprint EVERY single time? If not, when does it change?
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@code3 , no, different in direct and in private window, but every time the same, with VPN change it on every server.
But like I said, don't get too into this, it doesn't make sense. If you block cookies and trackers, this data is of little use to them, rather than for statistical uses, I doubt that they can personally identify you with this.
If you have criminal intentions it does not serve you any security measures, the authorities have means to identify you even with TOR and VPN on the Deep Web, as shown by more than 3000 pages intervened on the Deep Web for illegal activities and holders made available to the judiciary.
TOR and the.onion network were developed by the U.S. defense and the NSA, do you think these and the rest of the secret services and bodies agencies against cybercrime in any country don't know all the tricks?
If you want privacy beyond what I said before, you better unplug the router and use the local-only PC, everything else is meaningless. -
@Catweazle said in FingerprintJS Pro:
no, different in direct and in private window, but every time the same, with VPN change it on every server.
I don't completely get what you mean. You mean your fingerprint changes when the VPN server changes?
@Catweazle said in FingerprintJS Pro:
But like I said, don't get too into this, it doesn't make sense. If you block cookies and trackers, this data is of little use to them, rather than for statistical uses, I doubt that they can personally identify you with this.
Umm... They did personally identify me. That's the whole point of a unique ID! Unless you mean by name and email or something. The one good thing is, according to them, their services are only for fraud detection and should not be used cross-site. So some of this is purely theoretical, for now.
@Catweazle said in FingerprintJS Pro:
If you have criminal intentions it does not serve you any security measures, the authorities have means to identify you even with TOR and VPN on the Deep Web, as shown by more than 3000 pages intervened on the Deep Web for illegal activities and holders made available to the judiciary.
TOR and the.onion network were developed by the U.S. defense and the NSA, do you think these and the rest of the secret services and bodies agencies against cybercrime in any country don't know all the tricks?I do not have criminal intentions and have never visited a .onion site and I know the government uses it, they need anonymity too.
@Catweazle said in FingerprintJS Pro:
If you want privacy beyond what I said before, you better unplug the router and use the local-only PC, everything else is meaningless.
Again, I understand that. All I want is to not be assigned a unique ID. The farthest I have gotten with that is when I am using Tor, and only then, AND in a private window, it's unique ID system does not work. Other times, it works, and can track in and out of private windows.
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@Catweazle Do you have any idea what about the private window in Vivaldi makes it harder to fingerprint? That would help me a lot.
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@code3 , every site use the ID and the fingerprint, even this forum, it identified you as user and permit the site to ban you if needed. If you block all of them, you can't acces none of the sites, you can't banking online, nor use another services and a lot of pages break, you can't see YouTube, nor other video services. Yes, you can block all this, but the price is the use of the network.
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@Catweazle I know, you are talking about Cloudflare. You’re right, if I really block tracking they will think I’m a bot. I had trouble accessing this site with CyDec. I installed their Privacy Pass, which helps. Maybe rotating fingerprint weekly would be better, I will make a feature request.
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@Catweazle Vivaldi should already be able to block cross site fingerprinting through the tracker blocker
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@Catweazle I read Vivaldi help, and figured out why private windows confuse FingerprintJS Pro. It was abusing the cache. I reset the cache and got a new ID.
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@code3 , then the problem is even smaller than I imagined.
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@Catweazle Yes, I think it is smaller than we thought.
Also, maybe fingerprinting is not necessary, here are my Cloudflare Ray ID's changing:
633b8c058d31266
6342ea95d85a32b2
6343171aecd8415d
63438b6ae8510919
The extension "Privacy Pass" is what I am using (That way, I can change my ID without getting blocked a lot), it is buggy now but hopefully Cloudflare and hCaptcha will continue to fix it.
And, hopefully Vivaldi will implement the good parts of Google Privacy Sandbox, which includes a "budget" for how many parameters sites can collect about the user. Before the Sandbox, if I were to impose this "budget" on sites, it would just make me stand out more, but if Chrome uses it, it will not make me stand out. -