How Vivaldi browser is different from Google Chrome
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@kimmoj: "..as basic as..." a function that almost no one does. OK. You can put in a feature request for your rare function and, believe it or not, unlike other browser developers, Vivaldi will actually listen to you.
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We disable a lot of stuff in the Chromium code to keep your data private.
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@catweazle: thanks for the reply and info
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@stardepp: Good tips, ta !
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The difference is Vivaldi is buggy.
They claim to fix issues and they never do. They rather spend their time on useless features like 1980's games that no one ever plays. The open in background and full screen bug is still in the "stable" release for the past month and half. Closing a video screen in full screen mode would keep the browser in full screen. You have to press F11 to return back to normal. The "open in background tab" just doesn't work at all.
I would take Firefox with tab mix plus anytime until they had the recent updates that completely broke those extensions.
That is the main difference.
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@shadowxt said in How Vivaldi browser is different from Google Chrome:
They claim to fix issues and they never do.
That's BS, just take a look at last update changelog, all fixes done during winter holidays
https://vivaldi.com/blog/desktop/happy-new-year-vivaldi-browser-snapshot-2160-3/
if there's something you can't possibly do is saying they don't work their asses out to make it right. -
@iAN-CooG said in How Vivaldi browser is different from Google Chrome:
@shadowxt said in How Vivaldi browser is different from Google Chrome:
They claim to fix issues and they never do.
That's BS, just take a look at last update changelog, all fixes done during winter holidays
https://vivaldi.com/blog/desktop/happy-new-year-vivaldi-browser-snapshot-2160-3/LOL. I just mentioned two bugs that the developers claimed to have fixed on the development version.
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Open in background tab does not work. Open up any speed dial and click on a button. Instead of a background tab, it opens in the foreground.
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Full screen mode is broken. Open up any video in Youtube in full screen. Press control+W or close with mouse gestures. It would bring back the vivaldi main window in full screen mode. Prior to Vivaldi 3.5.2115.81, it was working fine. I have a copy of the Vivaldi 3.4.2066.106 and it works perfectly. The problem is that if I uninstall Vivaldi and install the over version, it breaks other parts of Vivaldi. The program will no longer save any passwords or logins.
Those are real bugs and has been in the software for close to a month or more. I submitted bug reports and they answered that its fixed in the development version. The stable version 3.5.2115.87 still has the bugs and the version was released in the past few days. That is unacceptable. Bugs should always be the number one priority before you add a single new feature.
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@iAN-CooG said in How Vivaldi browser is different from Google Chrome:
@shadowxt said in How Vivaldi browser is different from Google Chrome:
They claim to fix issues and they never do.
That's BS, just take a look at last update changelog, all fixes done during winter holidays
https://vivaldi.com/blog/desktop/happy-new-year-vivaldi-browser-snapshot-2160-3/
if there's something you can't possibly do is saying they don't work their asses out to make it right.That is the snapshot version and that is even more unstable. I only run stable versions because I'm tired of being a beta tester for buggy software. Fixing known bugs should always be the number one priority on any stable release.
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@shadowxt said in How Vivaldi browser is different from Google Chrome:
Open in background tab does not work
Sure it does.
- Right-click, Open in Background Tab
- Middle-click
- Ctrl+Click
Left click opens in the current tab as it is meant to.
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@shadowxt said in How Vivaldi browser is different from Google Chrome:
That is the snapshot version and that is even more unstable
You are so wrong, "stable" release is not more stable than any snapshot, infact any snapshot has more fixes than any previous stable release.
But hey, you are free to believe in what you want.Fixing known bugs should always be the number one priority on any stable release.
They get fixed during the snapshot releases, then the last snapshot after some time gets simply promoted to "stable" status, there's no real distinction between them apart a version number. Stable is just as a cumulative update.
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@iAN-CooG said in How Vivaldi browser is different from Google Chrome:
@shadowxt said in How Vivaldi browser is different from Google Chrome:
That is the snapshot version and that is even more unstable
You are so wrong, "stable" release is not more stable than any snapshot, infact any snapshot has more fixes than any previous stable release.
But hey, you are free to believe in what you want.Fixing known bugs should always be the number one priority on any stable release.
They get fixed during the snapshot releases, then the last snapshot after some time gets simply promoted to "stable" status, there's no real distinction between them apart a version number. Stable is just as a cumulative update.
Based on my previous experiences, the snapshots had a lot more bugs. This was a few years back and its was buggy as hell. It got to the point where I was sick of having to deal with new bugs every snapshot that came out. The stable is a lot more reliable because less of the code is changed from one version to the next with the minor releases. I always avoid the major releases for a few months until the first bugfixes come out.
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I was a long time Opera user before Opera changed for the worse. Then i've switched to Chrome, but never suited well my needs.
When i discovered the existence of Vivaldi i tested it for only a couple of days, then uninstalled Chrome without any regrets.Keep up the good work ! I can't wait to use the internal mail client in a next stable release.
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@shadowxt We maintain a reasonable tone here on the Vivaldi Forum. And nobody forces you to use Vivaldi. So save yourself such comments.
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@stardepp It sounds reasonable to me.
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@shadowxt said in How Vivaldi browser is different from Google Chrome:
- Open in background tab does not work. Open up any speed dial and click on a button. Instead of a background tab, it opens in the foreground.
This works just fine for me in the stable version. I concur with what @Pesala said.
- Full screen mode is broken. Open up any video in Youtube in full screen. Press control+W or close with mouse gestures. It would bring back the vivaldi main window in full screen mode. Prior to Vivaldi 3.5.2115.81, it was working fine. I have a copy of the Vivaldi 3.4.2066.106 and it works perfectly. The problem is that if I uninstall Vivaldi and install the over version, it breaks other parts of Vivaldi. The program will no longer save any passwords or logins.
Yeah, this one seems to be broken in stable at the moment. I've gone ahead and tested it out in the snapshot version so it's been fixed and should come to stable eventually.
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Works for me in last stable, YT returns flawless from fullscreen to normal with Shift+F11.
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@AltCode said in How Vivaldi browser is different from Google Chrome:
@shadowxt said in How Vivaldi browser is different from Google Chrome:
- Open in background tab does not work. Open up any speed dial and click on a button. Instead of a background tab, it opens in the foreground.
This works just fine for me in the stable version. I concur with what @Pesala said.
- Full screen mode is broken. Open up any video in Youtube in full screen. Press control+W or close with mouse gestures. It would bring back the vivaldi main window in full screen mode. Prior to Vivaldi 3.5.2115.81, it was working fine. I have a copy of the Vivaldi 3.4.2066.106 and it works perfectly. The problem is that if I uninstall Vivaldi and install the over version, it breaks other parts of Vivaldi. The program will no longer save any passwords or logins.
Yeah, this one seems to be broken in stable at the moment. I've gone ahead and tested it out in the snapshot version so it's been fixed and should come to stable eventually.
Thanks for confirming this. The open in background tab using the option setting: "New Tab from Link Opens in Background" on the tab menu doesn't work at all. Its supposed to allow you to click on links of speed dial or any links and open it in background tab using the left mouse button. The middle mouse button to click works but its annoying. I have carpel tunnel and the middle mouse button is no feasible. This is not a big issue for me because I use the "Force Background" extension and it does what I need. It would be nice if the feature worked and I didn't need to use an external extension.
I was more annoyed about the full screen issue because I have to press F11 every time I close a youtube window that was on full screen. It annoyed me to the point where I tried to uninstall and use an older version where the feature wasn't broken. However, it caused an even bigger problem where all my stored passwords and logins didn't work at all. Its like trading one set of bugs for another.
I went through so many browsers before. I was actually happy with Firefox until they changed and all the old extensions stopped working. Without Tab Mix Plus, firefox is unusable in my opinion. The closest one is Vivaldi. If Vivaldi embraced a lot of the tab mix plus options, it would be the best browser of them all. Tab Mix Plus was the best extension for any browser in my opinion.
I'll just hope and cross my finger the problem will be fixed by the next stable update. I was actually cheerful when I saw there was an update today. I was really hoping that full screen problem was fixed. I think it has been broken for the last three stable releases.
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@Catweazle On previous revisions, it returns back to a normal screen when you close the full screen. You shouldn't have to press F11, Shift-F11 or whatever F11. it was broken since the version right before the 3.5.2115.81 version. I know for a fact the 3.4.2066.106 works flawlessly. I just can't run it because it breaks my stored passwords.
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@Catweazle I actually got to the point where I'm afraid of any Vivaldi updates. I make sure to set the notification feature for updates off when I have a stable version. I saw the new option to open tabs in the background and took a risk of updating. That was a huge mistake. You shouldn't have to get to the point where you are afraid of updates on a stable release of any software. Every single update makes me worry about what else is broken that won't let me revert back to the previous versions. It shouldn't be like that.