Vivaldi won't display YouTube comments
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@RasheedHolland said in Vivaldi won't display YouTube comments:
but after clearing my cookies, it all of a sudden does work
Happy for you!
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@Ornorm said in Vivaldi won't display YouTube comments:
@RasheedHolland said in Vivaldi won't display YouTube comments:
but after clearing my cookies, it all of a sudden does work
Happy for you!
Thanks, sometimes these issues are so weird and you THINK you have tried everything, but perhaps I really didn't, it's crazy. For example, I had this issue with the "apps running in the background" feature on Win 10, I tried everything but I broke Windows so eventually I had to do a factory reset. After the reset, I could all of a sudden disable apps from running in the background. I spent hours trying to fix it.
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@Ornorm said in Vivaldi won't display YouTube comments:
@RasheedHolland said in Vivaldi won't display YouTube comments:
but after clearing my cookies, it all of a sudden does work
Happy for you!
BTW, turns out that in order to see comments, I will always first have to clean the YouTube cookies on youtube.com, now how weird is that?
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@RasheedHolland Nothing left in my "help" pocket...
I hope someone else can help you further.
If not, you could need to Report a bug.
Good luck. -
With UBO:
Without UBO:
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Even with this settings in UBO there is no comments:
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@barbudo2005 Obviously if using an ad-blocking extension, the responsibility to troubleshoot lies with you. You need to figure out what is being blocked in uBO by using the logger feature and what list is triggering this block.
This is not a Vivaldi issue.
Maybe this is the same issue as @RasheedHolland has, but they've said clearing cookies fixed it, and were running a clean profile with no extensions.
You can also check the Network tab in Devtools to find what requests are being blocked. In this case, I suspect you will see blocks for requests to
https://www.youtube.com/comment_service_ajax
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@guigirl RasheedHolland said earlier:
It's a weird problem because it only happens with my default profile, even when all extensions are disabled.
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turns out that in order to see comments, I will always first have to clean the YouTube cookies on youtube.com, now how weird is that?
So the original issue doesn't appear to be related to extensions. But of course, it wouldn't be the first time a user thinks they've disabled all extensions when they really have not...
Users might also have imported non-standard lists in the Vivaldi blocker and the same could happen, and not understanding properly the implications of doing so.
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@Ornorm said in Vivaldi won't display YouTube comments:
@RasheedHolland Nothing left in my "help" pocket...
I hope someone else can help you further.
If not, you could need to Report a bug.
Good luck.I believe it will remain a mystery. Perhaps I will need to do a complete reinstall, but now that I think about it, perhaps somehow Sandboxie plays a role, this is a protection tool that I run on top of Vivaldi. But I doubt it.
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@barbudo2005 said in Vivaldi won't display YouTube comments:
Even with this settings in UBO there is no comments.
OK so I'm not the only one with this problem? Do you get to see comments when you clear cookies?
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@RasheedHolland I cleared cookies and no comments.
My problem must be a filter list in UBO.
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@Pathduck said in Vivaldi won't display YouTube comments:
@guigirl RasheedHolland said earlier:
It's a weird problem because it only happens with my default profile, even when all extensions are disabled.
and
turns out that in order to see comments, I will always first have to clean the YouTube cookies on youtube.com, now how weird is that?
So the original issue doesn't appear to be related to extensions. But of course, it wouldn't be the first time a user thinks they've disabled all extensions when they really have not...
Users might also have imported non-standard lists in the Vivaldi blocker and the same could happen, and not understanding properly the implications of doing so.
I decided to test it again and I think I now finally solved it. I once again turned off all extensions but that didn't solve it, so it wasn't the problem. Then I noticed that certain third party cookies were being blocked, so I allowed them and now I don't have to clear any cookies to see comments.
So seems you were right, it's indeed related to blocking of third party cookies. It seems like you need to allow google.com to make it work. And BTW, the problem also started to appear on my laptop, so it wasn't just a problem on my desktop. Seems like Google really messed up.
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@RasheedHolland FWIW - I block 3rd-party cookies and I run uBO and can still see comments on YT. My guess is you still have requests to get comments being blocked. Have you actually checked the Devtools -> Network tab as suggested earlier?
@guigirl said in Vivaldi won't display YouTube comments:
Fwiw, using uMatrix for some years, & since swapping back to uBO again a few weeks ago, i never see YT comments. However my attitude seems to differ from some others -- in my case, i regard this as a Feature not a Bug!
Maybe you could have a look at the logger in uBO and try to figure out why the comments are blocked and what list is used? As said earlier, if requests to
https://www.youtube.com/comment_service_ajax
is blocked, then comments won't load.It might actually help others who are struggling you know
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@Pathduck said in Vivaldi won't display YouTube comments:
@RasheedHolland FWIW - I block 3rd-party cookies and I run uBO and can still see comments on YT. My guess is you still have requests to get comments being blocked. Have you actually checked the Devtools -> Network tab as suggested earlier?
Can you perhaps check which cookies are being blocked on YouTube on your system? I've just tested it on Vivaldi Portable 3.6, and it says that cookies are being blocked but it doesn't actually display any third party cookies that are being blocked, so there's someting weird going on.
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@RasheedHolland said in Vivaldi won't display YouTube comments:
Can you perhaps check which cookies are being blocked on YouTube on your system?
Yes, once you check DevTools > Network
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@Pathduck said in Vivaldi won't display YouTube comments:
@RasheedHolland said in Vivaldi won't display YouTube comments:
Can you perhaps check which cookies are being blocked on YouTube on your system?
Yes, once you check DevTools > Network
I think you're misunderstanding, my problem already seems to be solved and it doesn't seem to be related to uBlock Origin, at least not in my case. If I allow third party cookies on youtube.com, then I can see the comments.
Also, don't forget that I'm not logged into my Google account, because comments will always work when you're logged in, that's why I believe something weird is going on. Google should stop depending on third party cookies, Google Drive will also not work without them.
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@RasheedHolland And have you checked if anything is being blocked in DevTools or the uBO logger?
For me, testing YouTube in a clean profile of Vivaldi Snapshot and Stable, with 3rd-party blocked, the following cookie domains are blocked:
I can still see comments...
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@Pathduck said in Vivaldi won't display YouTube comments:
@RasheedHolland And have you checked if anything is being blocked in DevTools or the uBO logger?
For me, testing YouTube in a clean profile of Vivaldi Snapshot and Stable, with 3rd-party blocked, the following cookie domains are blocked. I can still see comments...
I tried to check it before with the uBlock Logger but it's too complex for me.
However, there is definitely something weird going on, because in another Vivaldi profile, I couldn't see comments once uBlock was disabled, but it did work with uBlock enabled. But according to Vivaldi, some third party cookie is still being blocked, but it doesn't display anything.
I guess I should be glad that it's somehow fixed, I will now stop with the troubleshoot, because this all hardly makes any sense. I don't know why you can see comments without allowing third party cookies on YouTube. I also don't know if it's some bug in Vivaldi when combined with uBlock.
EDIT: It seems like consent.youtube.com also plays a role, because if it's being blocked then eventually it will stop loading comments. And of course certain filters in uBlock also play a role.
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@guigirl I was asking RasheedHolland if they had checked the DevTools, not you. But for some reason this is much too complicated for them, even though they're able to install an adblocker extension, probably install custom lists, examine cookies, and make up all kinds of magic theories about unexplainable things happening, instead of just doing what's actually needed to troubleshoot the issue...
I was asking you about the uBO logger because I'm aware you likely know your way around uBO, you've probably used the logger before, and you're able to reproduce it (something I'm not), then it might actually be helpful. Instead of giving your opinion on whether YT comments are useful or not, which is IMO a pretty pointless discussion.
Maybe I forgot the magic word...