Spellchecker options!



  • Hello there developers! WHAT have you done with the right click spell checker options after the latest update which I installed yesterday night? They are GONE. Please know that I switched from Chrome to Vivaldi....exactly, because Chrome had just done away with those very useful options. And so now Vivaldi followed suit. This is a real deal breaker for me. I created an account on here especially to notify you and to ask you to bring back those options. They are a USEFUL feature for people who post in various languages, I would say indispensable. Why has this feature been removed? And to think I was so enchanted with your new browser, I even told my friends about it. Mabel Amber disappointed new user



  • I just hope they they removed by mistake or something.



  • What I am hoping too. I deinstalled Vivaldi. I shall wait another fortnight, then reinstall it and see if the spell checker options are back. If not then I have no further use for this browser.



  • Guys, this is beta software.

    The spell-check was limited before to a single dictionary IIRC so was not a lot of use to many users. I am sure they will reinstate the spell-checker when they are ready to do it properly.



  • Quote: "The spell-check was limited before to a single dictionary IIRC"

    In my own recollection the spell checker offered me both Dutch and English. Or I would not have created the post on here.

    Well, let's hope they get around to putting back that feature.



  • Count on it. One need not hope. One need merely wait a bit…



  • This was done by Google, not Vivaldi. Vivaldi uses Chromium as a base and this change was done in Chromium. Everybody was pissed with this decision, so this will probably change, but it may take a very long time. Vivaldi still can't afford much branching of the original code.

    Currently if you open Language Settings you can check all languages for spell check. Google decided that you should use all dictionaries at the same time.



  • @[i:

    "Count on it. One need not hope. One need merely wait a bit.."

    I shall take your word for it.



  • quote: "This was done by Google, not Vivaldi Vivaldi uses Chromium as a base and this change was done in Chromium. Everybody was pissed with this decision, so this will probably change, but it may take a very long time. Vivaldi still can't afford much branching of the original code.."

    Aha, so that explains it. Seeing Opera is based upon Chromium also…. we may need to say goodbye to spell checker options in Opera too. They still worked a minute ago though.
    It's very tedious to need to select the other language for the spelling check, every time you switch, which I do often in just one text.



  • It's known that Chromium caused this, but Vivaldi has taken GREAT pride in the extremely broad range of languages in which it is published and translated, so it's my FEELING that as soon as they can either bully the Chromium developers into returning spell-check choice, or have the resources to re-add dictionaries via their own code (rather fraught since they only write the UI, and not the rendering engine), they will do so. It's problematic to build a UI translated into languages for which there are no dictionaries…



  • Quote: "Vivaldi has taken GREAT pride in the extremely broad range of languages in which it is published and translated,"

    Are you referring to the list of languages in the "language settings" window? If so, Vivaldi offers soms 130, the same as Chrome.

    Opera offers 50 in that list.



  • And how many browsers with a development staff of 25, offer the same range of languages? You DO realize that Chrome developers don't translate the Vivaldi UI, right? That is done by paid and volunteer translators pitching in for the sheer pleasure of making Vivaldi user-friendly in their home languages.



  • Quote: "And how many browsers with a development staff of 25, offer the same range of languages? You DO realize that Chrome developers don't translate the Vivaldi UI, right? That is done by paid and volunteer translators pitching in for the sheer pleasure of making Vivaldi user-friendly in their home languages."

    I appreciate your clarifications about circumstance, with which I was obviously unfamiliar (how many people would be familiar I wonder), but I find your tone unjustifiably challenging, seeing my comment only contained a simple observation - based upon the former information that Chrome and Vivaldi share the same code base (if that is the correct term).

    Thanks.



  • Yes. The code base is widely translated. The UI, of course, being written from scratch by this rather small team, is not, until the widely-recruited translation team steps up to the plate. And since a user deals with the UI, and not the codebase, that's kinda the primary issue.

    I note, as well, that I have not seen (though there may have been) a post from you which is in any way complimentary, or even neutral, concerning the browser. Everything I have seen from you to date as been, to put it mildly, "challenging." Perhaps that has affected my mood. Have you considered this? Your very first post, as I recall, took the team to task for not being adequately gender-neutral.

    I observe that users often feel free to be caustic concerning their initial experience, without having taken the trouble to scope out the lay of the land - to evaluate the environment in which they find themselves - to discern to whom they are speaking. I try not to hold it against them, but often I think the developers have not truly earned the slings and arrows with which they are met. What do you think?



  • Quote: " gender-neutral"

    That is a different topic, please stick to the one we are dealing with here.

    Quote: "they can either bully the Chromium developers into returning spell-check choice,"

    Maybe my so called "challenging" post can enforce this "bullying".



  • @mabelamber:

    Aha, so that explains it. Seeing Opera is based upon Chromium also…. we may need to say goodbye to spell checker options in Opera too. They still worked a minute ago though.
    It's very tedious to need to select the other language for the spelling check, every time you switch, which I do often in just one text.

    Well, Opera has more employees so they may keep this feature on their fork. It's easier for them to maintain such branching.



  • hello mabelamber
    Welcome into vivaldi community and Thank You for joining. You exemplify great participation in building the browser and the community. Please hang in there, a fortnight at a time then if that suits You, for the future of vivaldi to bring the features You wish.
    Does this mean that You have not found desirable other and expired all alternative method to add spellchecker? or is it required to be a default addition to your browser of choice? You posted into Microsoft forum; can we ask others what they may consider as alternate spell-checker [english-Dutch, right? what features?] in the absence of the one in-built chromium? if alternative is crossplatform then too the linux and mac forums can input. From what is revealed here,, all chromium users face same problem. Am with Ayespy that having just pulled the plug on spellchecker may involve a bit of time to replace. Possibly some of Your experiences with trials of spellchecker performance choices could be good input for vivaldi developers! how about that? keep writing. it may help.
    If it is the chromium problem that resembles this:
    https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=544234&q=label%3ACr-UI-Browser-Spellcheck&colspec=ID Pri M Stars ReleaseBlock Cr Status Owner Summary OS Modified
    , then fix is picked-up as started.



  • Hi there i_ri,

    Thank you for responding to my post. Much appreciated.

    To answer your question: I have not found another spell checker which would meet with my requirements. At least not yet. The inbuilt checker that Chrome used to offer (sniff) and which Opera still does is, at least to my mind, ideal and totally user friendly. Moreover the feature is very well developed in that I only very very rarely encounter a word which is not included. Oh, and let's not forget Firefox, which offers the same feature: spell checker options on the right click menu (and the list of available dictionaries). To be honest, I do not have the time to go scouting around for add ons and scripts and what have you, every time a feature is removed, or, the other way round, learn to master a new iteration of a feature (which happens quite frequently). It would almost require diving into the niceties of web development and would distract from my own purpose: publishing my writings, videos and photos.

    The link you supplied illustrates my and others' issue perfectly: that is the familiar (Chromium) spell checker I and other users are sorely missing. It is indispensable for people who use more than one language, frequently juxtaposed. Precisely because of the removal of the spell checker I gave up on Chrome. I still wonder why such useful features are removed in the first place, it seems very basic to me, unless few people that happen to be multi lingual, are expressing themselves in just one language on the Net, and so the minority suffers under the majority that has no use for a feature (as happens frequently).

    Wish you and others on here happy holidays and a good 2016 :)



  • The Hunspell options in Opera 12.17 are pretty much ideal for most users, but it doesn't get over the problem of checking multi-lingual posts.

    On the My Opera forums there were several requests for a spell-checker that could auto-detect the language, to save having to manually switch dictionaries. Google's translation service can do this, so I wonder why Chrome's built-in spell-checker cannot.

    [attachment=2309]Opera12.17SpellCheck.png[/attachment]

    It works fine with English text, so I guess it's using the language of the user's locale, or something.
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  • hello mabelamber
    You impress as a person who does not rely on a spellcheck MUCH if at all. The fix on the bug was picked up by two helpers; the holiday may delay a bit, but the superior spellcheck will be back is what is indicated by their willingness to fix it.
    Schönen Advent und Frohe Weihnachten! as We approach the threshold of 2016. Get ToGether And Glow!
    Let's create documents!
    SeeYou in the neighborhood.


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