Do you want to change to Mac OS from Win10?



  • Apple launched a super chip to Mac series which names M1.
    The performance of M1 shows that this chip is better than X86 in a lot of user experiences.

    Do you want to change into Mac OS from Win10?

    I think I will buy a Mac machine to experience Mac OS and the fun of Apple product.


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    @Poto No. I am not rich enough to invest in such exorbitant high-cost hardware (would be forced to buy: Mac Notebook, 2 Mac Desktop, 1 color calibrated TFT, and much Adobe design software 😞 ).



  • @Gwen-Dragon You are a programmer but you don’t have enough income to afford Apple devices?
    In my country, programmers are high-paying positions.

    In addition, according to your description, you seem to have to pay for the hardware and software you need.
    Shouldn't these costs be borne by the company?

    Design software can consider Affinity Designer, a one-time buyout designer software.



  • I've seen articles pointing out that the iMac is more cost effective than an assembled PC of equivalent configuration.

    And there are also quite a few articles comparing Mac devices to their PC counterparts and finding that Mac devices are not that expensive in the long run.



  • Affinity Designer

    @Poto ,Thanks for introducing me to this software.


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    @Poto I do not wanna talk on profit of freelancers like me and employees income at a large IT company. That would make me cry for hours. Not nice.

    And i do not want to have Apple products because most of them can not be repaired easy and in positive and ecological way.


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    @Poto , wheels for Mac Pro are very cheap


  • Moderator

    @Poto I used Macintosh at work in the 90ies, learned some design, DTP and video production in 1999 on several Macs. But i uded PCs as the destination platform for customers projects was IBM compatible hardware for process control and data acquisation.


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    @Catweazle Oh, are they made of Platinium and Diamonds?


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    @Gwen-Dragon , no, but they hold up to 400 km/h, pushing the Mac downhill



  • @Gwen-Dragon You mean platinum and diamonds for shareholders, don't you? 😁


  • - Ambassador -

    My desktop PC complete with monitor, USB flash drive, and Windows cost £615.81 in 2013, which is less than an iPhone. I am still using it now.



  • It seems that the high-end laptops that some articles advocate, MacBook is about the same price than PC, or even cheaper is a one-sided statement

    But I have seen many videos, people are using MacBook series products, if Apple's products are expensive, why do they still choose Apple's products instead of other competing products?

    Is Apple's M1 chip likely to open up competition, making PC and Mac products incomparable? The emergence of M1 seems to push Apple computers to new heights, mainly in terms of performance. The specific usage scenarios will not be discussed first.



  • @Catweazle Humorous joke, I understand what you mean. Although I also think that Apple's products are very expensive.

    I was just out of curiosity, and I thought it was necessary to try a Mac. I didn’t think about it from my actual needs. I just think the ID design of the Mac is great, and its touchpad is very charming.



  • @Poto said in Do you want to change to Mac OS from Win10?:

    I've seen articles pointing out that the iMac is more cost effective than an assembled PC of equivalent configuration.

    This is true of course in some situations, but in many cases, the hardware configurations chosen as options for iMacs / Mac Pro, are not something you would choose if given the option of building your own PC.

    Right now, for example, AMD Ryzen 5000 series CPUs and Nvidia RTX 30 Series graphics cards are some of the best options to choose right now for a consumer, but you will never find either in any configuration Apple offers.

    Part of the reason the new Apple M1 chip computers are a thing is because Apple has been dedicated to using Intel CPUs and AMD GPUs which have been stagnant in the past few years (although this generation of AMD GPUs is better competition to Nvidia than years past).

    And there are also quite a few articles comparing Mac devices to their PC counterparts and finding that Mac devices are not that expensive in the long run.

    For this I am guessing it has to do with resale value? otherwise, I am skeptical. I have noticed that many 3rd party small utility programs on Apple systems are paid while equivilant options on Windows systems / Linux systems are free. I use a fair number of utilities like Microsoft Power Toys, T-clock, and AutoHotkey, so for my situation, I could see using an Apple device as more expensive in the long run.


    All this is not to say that I am unexcited by Apple's development of the M1 ARM chip for more traditional computers. ARM processors are a great choice for portable devices with their power efficient designs. I hope to see more software developers optimizing their programs to run natively on ARM devices, rather than through compatibility layers. Apple is the company to help push this change.

    I have had my eye on used/refurbished Microsoft's Surface Pro X tablets that also use an ARM processor, but I have held off because of difficulty with program compatibility. Hopefully Windows on ARM can gain some benefits from Apple's influence on software development. And maybe Microsoft will finally focus on getting a compatibility layer for 64 bit programs.

    I am excited to see how this develops, and see Intel's and AMD's response as more and more portable devices will be going to ARM. Intel already has a CPU with a mix of power efficient and higher performance cores in the works, so even x86 devices could get better as a result.

    Exciting times 🤩


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    On a computer I want to spend the money on performance, not design. Yes, Apple products are pretty, no doubt, but this design pays off. Apple's hardware is too tight for my liking, leaving little room for the user for modifications, also as mentioned, applications that are free, on Mac they are paid.



  • You can't play vidya games on Mac, can you?


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    I've previously used macs... I still have a white laptop from 2008 running Linux Mint 17.3.
    Their hardware is well made but still overpriced. For me, I just can't tolerate their OSs.
    They ran (possibly still run) FreeBSD or was it OpenBSD in the background yet have contributed nothing back to the project. (uname -- something used to tell the user.)

    All in all, not viable for me. I'd rather use Windows or Linux.



  • @Poto said in Do you want to change to Mac OS from Win10?:

    Do you want to change into Mac OS from Win10?

    Corollary:
    Would you like a rusty hot needle shoved up your rhs thumb or lhs?

    Pass.



  • @Steffie How could you change to macOS from Win10? It puzzles me 🤔. Is Arch a special Win10 version? 🤣


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