Where is Wand?



  • Old Opera had [b]Wand[/b] - icon on the menu bar to help fill in login passwords. This "Opera" by some reason does not have it. I mean, even [b]wand [/b]file is not part of app's configuration. Is there a plan to add it? :dry:


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    @konic:

    Old Opera had Wand - icon on the menu bar to help fill in login passwords.
    This "Opera" by some reason does not have it.
    I mean, even wand file is not part of app's configuration.
    Is there a plan to add it? :dry:

    There is no Wand, per se, but there is, of course, the built-in Chromium-style password saving and filling function. An actual Wand option has not been discussed, and I don't imagine it's a terribly high priority, It was nice to click Wand button (or ctrl+enter) to sign in, and such a function may eventually come to Vivaldi. There are a TON more basic and critical things ahead of it at the moment, however, which need fixing or adding before Vivaldi is ready for prime time.



  • This is not Olde Opera and has a totally different architecture from that software. Vivaldi passwords are stored in an SQL file named Login Data (with no file extension) within your Vivaldi profile folder. If you view that file directly, any existing password data will be present in a semi-encrypted form: the usernames will be visible plaintext, the passwords will appear encrypted using a hash of the user's system/account log-on password - so you can't read them directly.

    There are extensions and software tools that apply decryption to allow you to view the full password listings from within the user's account, but nothing along those lines presently exists within Vivaldi itself. Vivaldi's Password Manager (under Settings > Privacy) will allow you to delete an existing password entry, will allow you to view usernames vs. URLs corresponding to saved passwords, but will not show you passwords themselves.

    Normally, Vivaldi's option to save a new password pops up when first performing a log-in at a site. It works well thereafter when re-logging in by typing the first letter of the username at the log-in box, clicking the popped-up username associated with that, and then clicking the log-in button after the fields are auto-populated. Not all site log-ins will initially trigger Vivaldi's password-save option, generally because the sites involved don't want user passwords saved in a browser, and thus code their sites accordingly to avoid triggering the password saving mechanism.

    As @Ayespy has noted, Vivaldi may eventually refine or alter the log-in process and storage mechanisms, but it's not likely a high priority because the current method works as well as it does.



  • An out of topic statement, but Ayespy, I noticed you just passed 2000 posts in the forum. Congrats!

    And I go with what Blackbird and Ayespy said. Right now, Vivaldi only has the features that Chromium has, and the rest are it's own features. As we go further and further into development, V will have more of it's own features added I bet. For instance, I think the history function, which right now is working as a Chromium feature, will eventually be changed to Vivaldi's feature as it's own panel and function itself, with it's organization of it. The same will probably happen with Wand. I never knew what Wand was as I never used Olde Opera for very long, but I'm assuming it's the password manager, right? I'm sure V will get that eventually, but not anytime soon.



  • @Blackbird:

    Not all site log-ins will initially trigger Vivaldi's password-save option,

    This is why the Wand button is still a good idea.



  • I dont think that will be implemented in near future. But it is a Feature wish in our Vivaldi bug databse. :)
    Yes, i know, good old Opera 12 habits. Vivaldi developers will try to give you such features back.
    lets wait for it.

    You can use KeePass 2 with ChromeIPass to insert passwords and (the better feature!) store passwords in a secure and portable login databse.
    Or use LastPass extension.


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