More fixes and another minor Chromium bump – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2088.7


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    @luetage I agree with @hlehyaric, the issue has been raised here and it's kind of natural that the discussion continues here. As a moderator, I sometimes feel the urge to "clean up" threads by moving the off-topic comments somewhere else - we even get reports from users asking us to do that from time to time. But in times like this, (and after reading all of your arguments here), I'm keen on leaving it as it is and allowing these type of off-topic discussion.

    After all, these blog posts are regularly replaced by new ones and at some point each one of them becomes history. It's not like people are going to look for some important stuff in a specific version of a snapshot from 3 years ago and get annoyed that there were some giggling off-topic comments under the blog post from the day of its release... 😅

    Of course, we want to keep balance and split threads whenever necessary. But this time I think it's okay to leave it as it is. I actually enjoyed reading this discussion, it feels more like a Vivaldi family here and less like a Vivaldi corp. and I think it's great. 😊



  • @hlehyaric

    Actually, there's a workaround: Go OT wherever you want, bar in Announcements' threads, cause posts will show up in the blog's comments. Simple as that, though boring.

    Exactly, yes - i thought of that too yesterday, but i slapped myself down before posting it, coz it feels so grossly unnatural, euw!. But, yeah, if we can't achieve what IMO is the better outcome of the blog comments being 100% separate from the forum comments, then this workaround would achieve our objective... albeit at the expense of us all needing to exercise rigorous self-control.

    We're screwed. 😜

    @pafflick said in More fixes and another minor Chromium bump – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2088.7:

    it feels more like a Vivaldi family here and less like a Vivaldi corp. and I think it's great

    How lovely to hear you again, it seems like a long time between drinks these days. Nicely said IMO. Though there are some in this forum community who seem allergic to joy, in the main i think a community is only a community as long as good spirits are allowed to flourish, & that means that as utterly critical & non-negotiable as the tech components are [duh], camaraderie, bonhomie, & banter also enrich the community. It would be a crying shame if the Vivaldi Forum ever became a browser-analogue of the ArchLinux Forum! 😱

    That said, for the little it's worth, i also feel equally strongly that the diverse richness of community spirit i espoused above, is the exclusive "right" of that community, not the general public. We collectively [many since the very beginning] provide a lot of value-adding to the Vivaldi browser enterprise with our continuous testing & feedback, which i would like to believe is of direct assistance to the Devs in their ongoing brilliant work. Maybe i'm delusional, but it seems fair to me that in return for our contributions, we get to enjoy a pleasant & fun, as well as technically-oriented, forum environment. The general public blog-readers should not see that, until they elect to either visit the forum-space as Guests, or ideally formally join the community & hopefully then begin contributing to the holistic goodness.



  • @Steffie Let's be honest: nothing will be done.

    See the bright side: the blog comments are sort of a vitrine for the forum, the former promotes the latter as a serious and helpful yet enjoyable and joyful place. (That's the bright side?? 🤭)

    It would be a crying shame if the Vivaldi Forum ever became a browser-analogue of the ArchLinux Forum! 😱

    Or the current Opera forum…



  • @hlehyaric If you were ever nailed to a cross anywhere, i know what you'd be whistling.



  • @Steffie Crucifixion? Good! 👍

    Btw, it seems you desperately want me to be crucified:

    Probably will just get away with a light crucifixion then.

    😜 😂 😇



  • @hlehyaric Heehee, but don't worry, it's nothing personal, just company policy. Soooo, remember, one cross each then out the door & line up.



  • I understand my post sounds very méthode Coué, but I really think nothing will change and I know I can't «exercise rigorous self-control» even if it leads me to a cross, while whistling of course.

    So, what shall we do? We are still posting here anyway…😱 🤣



  • @hlehyaric said in More fixes and another minor Chromium bump – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2088.7:

    Or the current Opera forum…

    What is happening there?



  • @hlehyaric Hmmm, so much for your method:

    Émile Coué de la Châtaigneraie (French: [emil kue də la ʃɑtɛɲʁɛ]; ... was a French psychologist and pharmacist who introduced a popular method of psychotherapy and self-improvement based on optimistic autosuggestion.

    And yet...

    Died July 2, 1926 (aged 69)

    What a quack!

    So, what shall we do?

    Well, let's see if anything pops up...
    @Gaëlle
    @Gaëlle
    @Gaëlle



  • @Stardust Nothing. I find it rather boring, that's all; but it's just my own point of view.



  • @hlehyaric okay (and sorry for offtop)



  • @Steffie You're unbelievable 😂 👏.

    Maybe, there's a solution 💡: let's post Vogon poetry instead of OT in Snapshot threads and see what happens…



  • @hlehyaric said in More fixes and another minor Chromium bump – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2088.7:

    poetry

    poetry about Snapshot? 🙂
    How about haiku?



  • @hlehyaric I know you mentioned it t'other day, & i realised you were implying that it was Not A Good Place, and i acknowledge that the following is probably juvenile, but ever since "Opera" poked a finger in the eye of its original user-base, & then was sold to a Chinese investor group [ie, legally obliged to provide any requested assistance to PRC govt], i have steadfastly held to my personal policy of:

    1. Not installing "Opera".
    2. Not visiting its website.

    I used to be so passionate about that name, but now it is as nothing to me.



  • @Stardust Vogon poetry. It's a little bit different than haiku 🤭 (though I really appreciate haiku and Japanese poetry).



  • @Steffie Once in a quarter, I take a glimpse there to see if they have the same issues as we have, cause it's a chromium-based browser, and some people come here and say «Opera, wonderful, blabla». Nothing to be impressed of. I don't use the browser nor have it installed.



  • @hlehyaric Sorry, was out in kitchen making some elevenses; back now.

    You're unbelievable

    Well, i simply refuse to believe you.

    let's post Vogon poetry

    OMZ, now finally we see deep into your soul, & realise the unmitigated malevolence lurking within! Up to now you were carrying off your guise as a Not Monster so very well...

    😜

    Damn fine idea, mind you!



  • @Steffie said in More fixes and another minor Chromium bump – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2088.7:

    OMZ, now finally we see deep into your soul, & realise the unmitigated malevolence lurking within!

    Never mind. I always have my towel & my copy of the Guide at hand. Nothing bad can happen to me. Except a bowl of petunias?🤔



  • @hlehyaric IMO the poor old whale had it worse! Count your blessings.😜



  • @hlehyaric said in More fixes and another minor Chromium bump – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2088.7:

    Or the current Opera forum…

    😱

    Please man, don't scare us in the middle of the night! 😰

    😓 🥃🚬 😏 last time I checked (about some half a year or sthg) it's the same as in the previous half of a year, which is the same as the pre-previous half, which is actually what it is years now, namely a sad, cobwebbed 🕸 🕷 place🕸 with no people, no sense of community, no fun, the old tradition of First! burried, forgotten and unknown (naturally migrated here), no light-hearted community-dev interaction, no Jon, no moderation except for the old and very known to oldtimers here, in-house fan troll, who can drive anyone crazy seeing black instead of white, individuals that come and go here as well asking why that Chinopera feature or their pet bug isn't in/already fixed in Vivaldi, like they are used to doing there on every occasion, and with 1-2? people constantly whining/complaining about the... wrong direction Chinopera is heading for about 7 years now? -ORLY-, and their pet bugs that aren't fixed.

    Seriously between the 2, I prefer Arch's forum anytime. At least there is life there and an actual community, while the Chinopera forum is a case study for the Stockholm syndrome and human (troll) behavioural observation in general...

    🙂 👍


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