Vivaldi 3.4 RC 1 – Vivaldi Desktop Browser snapshot 2066.64/65



  • I've never taken advantage of the ability to update stable early, but I did this time just to be able to opt out of using native notifications again (the flag has returned and actually works).

    Plus, I read through this thread and the last one and didn't really see any deal-breakers.



  • @hilumcool I never made music myself, but I get that real warm nostalgic feeling just seeing the Protracker screen. I loved listening to the songs, setting the drum and bass to solo or just playing around with the samples 🙂

    There was so much fantastic music on the Amiga. I had a huge collection of MOD, S3M and XM files - sadly lost in a disk wipe years ago.

    Fortunately a lot of the classics have been uploaded to YT, even with the tracker interface. One of my favourite Amiga musicians is Jogeir Liljedahl:
    Variations by Jogeir Liljedahl
    Amiga Music: Jogeir Liljedahl Compilation #1
    Amiga Music: Jogeir Liljedahl Compilation #2

    It was amazing what could be created with tracker in skilled hands, and I believe it's still used today by many professional musicians.


  • Vivaldi Team

    @hilumcool , I do not believe I played Ports of Call. I also did not do any work in Soundtracker. I loved what people were creating, but had no talent myself. Still hoping to discover that the talent was just hiding. 🙂



  • @pesala: What you're saying isn't untrue, but I don't think it's that big of a deal. I don't think I'll be playing the game, but it doesn't hurt me or my opinion of Vivaldi/the Vivaldi team that they decided to be a little whimsical. It's not a big deal to me and I think the "99%" of users that you refer to later in the thread won't care as much as you do.



  • @Pathduck For me the Amiga was a real "trendsetter" in many areas:

    • sounds/music towards electronic music making for everyone (the mentioned tracks are really nice)
    • programming (multitasking, font- and screen resolution sensitive 'elastic' user interfaces, system libraries and app skeletons/builders, i18n with catalogs, cool IDEs like Oberon, ...)
    • grafx/video effects (like the spectacular 'morphs')
    • DTP (like PageStream)
    • high quality printing with Turboprint
      And so on.

    In the music area, Sun Vox may be one of the most powerful descendants of that time, that is still developed further and available on many platforms.

    In the programming area, the Amiga had many 'firsts'.

    Ah - that were really good times 🙂



  • @jon Your talent is very visible 🙂 I remember how proud I was, when I got on board of Project Magic at Opera as an external betatester for Opera for EPOC by Keith Hollis with my Psion Series 5! Vivaldi is your current musical score in the browser market - and it sounds excellent 🙂


  • Vivaldi Team

    @hilumcool , thank you for your kind words. I am lucky to be working with a great team that knows what to do and to have the help from you and others. We could not have done it without your help! The whole idea of Vivaldi is to work with you all to make a great browser, with more to come as M3 gets closer each day!



  • @jon Exiting times in the past, present and the future!


  • Banned

    The community is the best I know. Maybe there are better browsers (I don't think so, but what do I know?)
    Not only the developers but also every user tries to help. Love it! 😘


  • Vivaldi Team

    @hilumcool , Indeed. I am very excited about what we are about to show you. For me working on the game has been a lot of fun. The team is very talented. Just like with everything at Vivaldi, this is just the first step.

    We will continue to improve the browser. We know you want more. More of everything. We are working on a lot of improvements. Some in this release. Some in next. We are also working on speed improvements across the board.

    M3 is then getting closer each and every day. I love using it and I very much look forward to letting you all test it out. I hope you will love it as much as I do.


  • Vivaldi Team

    @Ice007 , I agree. I do believe we have the best browser, but it is the community that makes Vivaldi. This is a unique community.



  • @jon I'm very much looking forward to your steps ahead.

    I see the success of Vivaldi not only directly in your product(s), but when one of my non-developping co-workers is suddenly using Vivaldi as his new standard browser - without any enforcement from my side ;-). This tells me that you and your team have really reached something, as many people are afraid of changing a default browser...


  • Vivaldi Team

    @hilumcool , I think more and more people want to get a browser that is not shy of including useful features and customization. That is what we are about and people sharing the word about Vivaldi is helping us grow.

    We have a lot planned and we are looking forward to sharing it all with you!



  • @Pathduck said in Vivaldi 3.4 RC 1 – Vivaldi Desktop Browser snapshot 2066.64/65:

    @hilumcool I never made music myself, but I get that real warm nostalgic feeling just seeing the Protracker screen. I loved listening to the songs, setting the drum and bass to solo or just playing around with the samples 🙂

    There was so much fantastic music on the Amiga. I had a huge collection of MOD, S3M and XM files - sadly lost in a disk wipe years ago.

    Fortunately a lot of the classics have been uploaded to YT, even with the tracker interface. One of my favourite Amiga musicians is Jogeir Liljedahl:
    Variations by Jogeir Liljedahl
    Amiga Music: Jogeir Liljedahl Compilation #1
    Amiga Music: Jogeir Liljedahl Compilation #2

    It was amazing what could be created with tracker in skilled hands, and I believe it's still used today by many professional musicians.

    I played around with a couple of trackers on PC in the late 80s / early 90s - had some fun drunken nights with friends recording stupid sounds and making "music" out of it. I also got a CD Rom of a kazillion tracker files ripped from BBS - actually made it a mission to listen to every single one and rate it. Think I still have the CD and ratings printout in a box somewhere...

    Here's a little tip - VLC plays tracker files! 😄

    Edit: coincidentally I saw a YouTube clip a couple of days ago of some DJ demonstrating how trackers and standalone samplers were used to create all the old house/techno music back then.



  • Couldn't help noticing that there was precisely zero administrative presence here, amongst the plethora of fascinating yet completely OT posts, to censor them &/or move them to another thread.

    I wonder why...? 🤔

    😉 😜 😁

    To help us get 3.4 out the door as soon as possible, please focus your feedback on serious regressions since 3.3 stable.

    🤣



  • @ Steffie I see it the same way. I wanted to read about what people think of the new Vivaldi version.

    @ People who are talking about pinball, old computers and so on: Nice stories, but not the right place for this. I can imagine that you sometimes get carried away, but come on, there are several pages just filled with that.

    To say at least something to the topic: I don't like it, that the game is included now in the browser. Is it possible to uninstall it?



  • @cM0 Yeah i understand your point, & whilst i don't necessarily disagree, i actually had a hidden / not-so-hidden meta-agenda, wrt some unnecessary admin unpleasantness that recently occurred in another thread. I was subtly pointing out by implication a bit of inconsistent hypocrisy, in that the "type" of poster who goes OT, rather strongly affects whether administrative jackboots appear or not.


  • Vivaldi Team

    @Steffie , hey, I am here. 🙂

    So we went a little off topic, but in some ways we are on topic. The point is that Vivaldi is about choice. There is always a reason for why we include features and I think this discussion maybe gave a bit of background.


  • Vivaldi Team

    @cM0 , we include a lot of features with Vivaldi. As always the discussion is about your favorite features. Remember that the reason we have features you love in Vivaldi is because we do not listen to those that think browsers should be limited to the lowest common denominator of needs people have. This is a fundamental difference between us and the others.

    I am sure you have favorite features and we will continue to work on them. We will also continue to work on features other people prefer. By including the features in one package you get a browser that has what you need. If you do not like a feature, just hide it. It is easy.



  • @jon No Jon, it was not you whom i was implicitly critiquing, but one of your team. There has been a relatively recent occurrence of treating forum members as being too dim to walk and chew gum, such that if one dares to make a post of levity or irony in response to some thread, an unwarranted forum admin response ensued... Part of what makes this community a pleasant place to be, is the spirit of relaxed banter as well as the serious tech aspect. The two characteristics are not mutually exclusive, nor should anyone in your team seek to treat them as such.


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