Favicons not displayed for child tabs
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@barbudo2005 Might be related, might not be.
Favicons for extensions have been broken several times in Vivaldi and AFAIK it's been like this for a long time now.
You'd need to inspect the Vivaldi UI to figure out why they don't show as they are locally loaded resources.
Not really relevant to this issue in my opinion. Feel free to report it as a separate issue though, it needs to be fixed.
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It happens for me with builtin adblock and with UbO.
Do we need more repro cases for already registered bug?
Really looking to see it fixed, it believe it brakes accent color for themes -
@Pathduck I think I'm going to have to figure out how to make more exceptions (feel free to post a tutorial), since I doubt this is getting fixed anytime soon. It's still present in today's snapshot (with RCs starting soon due to 86 being out in a week), and it's not even mentioned as a known issue despite being a very recent one (their favorite kind).
So, once again, it's probably going to be up to us to workaround/live with an issue.
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@rseiler said in Favicons not displayed for child tabs:
I think I'm going to have to figure out how to make more exceptions (feel free to post a tutorial), since I doubt this is getting fixed anytime soon.
How can you be so sure? For all we know it could be fixed in the next snapshot. Or maybe not. I got a reply from the team asking for (more) URLs where it happens so they might be looking at the issue.
I can't really make a tutorial, as what rules to create exceptions for differs from site to site. The only site I regularly use is IMDB anyway, the rest I don't really care about if they work or not.
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@Pathduck Not sure, but I've just learned through hard experience to expect fixes much later than sooner, and sometimes never. It's a good way to never be disappointed. Of course, it could already be in the chute. That does happen once in a while.
It is encouraging that you received a rare response to a bug.
I was just looking for methodology on how you found nyt.com for nytimes.com for example, since once that's known it should be applicable anywhere.
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@rseiler said in Favicons not displayed for child tabs:
I was just looking for methodology on how you found nyt.com for nytimes.com for example, since once that's known it should be applicable anywhere.
The basic method I used when was the following. Note that this is very much trial and error, there is no true recipe:
- First test if actually disabling adblocker makes the favicon show again. If not, stop as there is no point doing the rest.
- Open a tab where favicons fail to load
- Open Devtools (F12) and reload the page
- Show only the blocked requests and note down their target domains.
- Add exclude rules in uBlock for each of these domains in the form I listed above, starting with the most likely ones (i.e. static hosting domains not tracker domains, should be pretty obvious).
- Repeat until icon shows again.
For Reddit it was pretty easy to find the rule:
@@||redditmedia.com^$domain=reddit.com
Thing here is, that Reddit's favicons are actually all hosted onredditstatic.com
not the above. So like I said earlier, it makes no senseFor the other examples you give like Yahoo disabling adblocker doesn't work there, so there's nothing to be done for now. For ESPN I don't get the issue at all, same for TheWeek, favicons load, albeit a bit slow/very late in the load.
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@Pathduck The variability is fascinating. For example, with uBO there's definitely a TheWeek and Yahoo and ESPN problem (and NYT, which you saw).
It's probably just the exact filters selected, along with some variability between built-in blocker vs uBO vs any other one.
The slow/late part is interesting, too, since even when the icon is ultimately displayed it seems like many lag more now than I recall. Though that just may be because I'm paying attention now. But I wonder if they loaded earlier before, instead of at the very end as they seem to now, and whether that's related to the overall problem.
Thanks, I'll use those guidelines and see what I can find.
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here is another url to test with
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And another: anandtech.com
That's another, like espn.com, where the child page doesn't quite finish loading until you click "X," at which point the the favicon shows. Finding an exception for that style of the problem has eluded me.
However, I found a fix for theweek.com:
@@||dianomi.com^$domain=theweek.com
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still unfixed on stable 3.4 version.
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@Pathduck Did they ever respond to your report beyond the one time?
I hope they understand that it's sometimes a result of the child page not finishing loading in the sense that the progress bar never goes away until you hit ESC, at which point it "finishes" doing whatever it's doing, even though the page looks completely loaded (except for the favicon).
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@rseiler Hi, yeah I got one response, but it was only to ask for more URLs where it happens. I gave a list of the ones mentioned here, even if it doesn't happen for me on all of them. I never actually got a confirmation that they've reproduced it on their side.
Issue might be complex and subtly different on different systems, depending on what lists are used and so on.
Maybe @Gwen-Dragon could check the Jira status for VB-72001, please?
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I, too, would appreciate if someone would check the master bug for this issue, which is about more than a favicon (i.e. it also relates to a problem with site loading). We're getting close to crunch time for 3.5.
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@rseiler said in Favicons not displayed for child tabs:
I, too, would appreciate if someone would check the master bug for this issue, which is about more than a favicon (i.e. it also relates to a problem with site loading). We're getting close to crunch time for 3.5.
Yes, I would also like to know when this problem will be fixed, it's so annoying! And it still happens in the Vivaldi 3.5 snapshot version. It's clearly related to ad-blocking, because it's triggered by uBlock, Ghostery, AdBlock Plus and Vivaldi's own built-in ad-blocker. If this won't be fixed in Vivaldi 3.5, then let us know, because I will then simply reinstall Vivaldi 3.2.
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+1
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This appears to be fixed (though not mentioned in the release notes as far as I can see) in the first test build based on Chromium 87.
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@rseiler I think you might be right
Will be intersting to see if that also solves the crashes on Yahoo News that I suspected was linked.
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@Pathduck Funny you mention Yahoo, because it seems fixed here.
What is your thinking on the relation? It never occurred to me that they were, but this is all very strange and anything is possible.