Any way of accessing File/Edit/View/etc via keyboard?



  • I realize this is a beta but you wouldn't think this is particularly difficult to implement and seems so basic considering that so many Opera users are more keyboard oriented than the masses. Even when in Horizontal Main Menu the first letter of each is underlined which usually denotes an Alt relationship but that only works when the mouse focus is on the top menu bar. Strange. It works, then when you click the mouse lower in the page it doesn't. Also, View/Show Panel is checked when its not implemented.



  • Just because a bug is well known and seems easy to fix doesn't mean that it is easy to fix, and even if it is easy to fix, it may be a low priority if it does not affect most users. I wonder if even 10% of users use a menu bar?



  • @Pesala:

    … I wonder if even 10% of users use a menu bar?

    FWIW, I display and often use a menu bar on all my software that provides or allows it. I find it faster to access menu-related functionality than the added click and pause while a master menu-icon pops up essentially the same menu I already have directly in the bar. For consistency's sake alone, a well-designed menu bar in each is almost a necessity when using a lot of different software interchangeably. Relying on key shortcuts/combos for functionality is fraught with problems when, as they too-often do, just some of the shortcuts functionality links vary between the software products, with extremely unpleasant results when the wrong one for a certain function in that software is used.

    My greatest preference, however, is a custom button bar on which I can plant icons or abbreviated text for important (to me) functionality, as I do with Office2010 apps and Firefox, and did with Olde Opera (2 button bars, each populated by at least 50 function buttons) . In a browser with a well-designed bookmarks bar and customizable toolbar, I can readily rule my normal browsing world with minimal effort.



  • Its best to never touch the mouse at all! A keyboard shortcut can be implemented in about 1/2 a second. Way before mouse man has even moved the cursor to the correct location on the screen.



  • @sam_neil:

    Its best to never touch the mouse at all! A keyboard shortcut can be implemented in about 1/2 a second. Way before mouse man has even moved the cursor to the correct location on the screen.

    If speed is all you want, and if you're only using a particular browser continually, perhaps. But try flipping back and forth between multiple software programs continually all day long, and you may unexpectedly find yourself frequently applying the wrong keyboard shortcut at inopportune times. Unless the shortcuts trigger essentially the same functionality in each program (and some of them often don't), all kinds of unpleasant actions can occur with a miss-remembered shortcut key pattern applied in a particular program.

    We're all different in how we use computers and software… which is why a well-designed program will provide multiple ways of doing things.



  • @sam_neil:

    Its best to never touch the mouse at all! A keyboard shortcut can be implemented in about 1/2 a second. Way before mouse man has even moved the cursor to the correct location on the screen.

    Here are definitions of bug priorities from JIRA — a professional bug tracking system.

    • Blocker — Blocks development and/or testing work, production could not run
    • Critical — Crashes, loss of data, severe memory leak
    • Major — Major loss of function
    • Minor — Minor loss of function or other problem where there is an easy work-around
    • Trivial — Cosmetic problem like mispelt words or misaligned text.


  • The above post was typed by "mouseman" without even touching the keyboard.

    I love keyboard shortcuts — I use them all the time, but there are good reasons for using mouse gestures and custom buttons too.

    There are lots of issues to be fixed before Vivaldi will be good enough to become my default, but the menu bar access key bug is a minor issue.



  • What are some of the obvious things they are probably working on now so I'm not surprised when I encounter them? This is the best designed browser I've used in years (well….since the old Opera of course). If only we could get it to deal with today's websites better and play video but as they say...."those were the days".


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