Gendering in forum
tell me in privet message please i will be happy if you helped me for this , i'm not able to go to Opera sites forums
Please open a new thread for this in forum https://forum.vivaldi.net/category/17/browsers
OK , Mr.Dragon
OO sorry i was not know that , forgive me
@Gwen-Dragon forgive me i was not know that you are lady
@kimoo Sorry for you, do not call me MISTER!
Gwen is not a male name.
What would you think if i would call you Missy if you were a boy?
Do no expect that every person is male because of technical knowledge! Such thinking is a prejudice and sexistic.
@kimoo You know what these footers below the posts of users are good for? To tell something about the person.
If you would have paid more attention, you could have see that i am a woman in IT.
OK. Apology accepted.
Gwen is not a male name.
«Gwen-Dragon» is only a pseudonym. It does say in itself which gender you are. Your signature does.
By the way, assuming everyone knows «Gwen is not a male name» supposes everyone familiar with Western/European culture. It's also a prejudice and Western-centric.
Do no expect that every person is male because of technical knowledge!
You're right, but unfortunately do not expect state of mind to change soon. In this thread, read the first post (the first line), you will love it…
«Gwen-Dragon» is only a pseudonym.
Sorry, "WTF I'm a gal" was not allowed by Community rules.
May be i am the only woman here who dislikes misgendering when people using a salutation. But i do.
@Gwen-Dragon Don't get me wrong.
Earlier, in another thread, the user already made the same mistake (he called you «sir»), he was told you are a woman, then made the same mistake again. He should have paid attention (it's not such a great effort). But you can't assume, on an international forum, everyone knows «Gwen» is a female name. That's why you specify you're a woman in your signature.
To be clear, nobody has to assume users here are only men, just because it's a technical forum.
See, in my mother language it is easier because we have "genders" in words. In english you can say "airplane" and you don't know if it is "he", "it" or "she". In Italian it is "aeroplanO" and since it ends on "O" it is "male". We have lost the "neutral" or "it" in time so there are only two genders. Same goes with people's names, like "MariA" ends in "A" so it is female, "MariO" ends in "O" so it is male. There are few exceptions like "LucA", "AndreA" or "SimonE" that are all male names, I think of greek origin.
Gwen should translate in Guenda or the diminutive Guendalina.
In forums we (moderators) use the form they instead of she or he if the gender is not given or obvious. That means we never use Sir or Madam.
You have got three issues here.
First, we don't know english like native speakers.
Second, we aren't aware of what you consider "polite" in your corner of the world.
Third, in our native language your "conventions" may not exist because of the true nature of the language, which has some history and reasons why it works in a way or another. So when we move to your language we have to know the vocabulary, the grammar and then the "unwritten rules" that, like jokes, don't translate.
Patience, you must have.
@JohnConnorBear I can agree to all you 've said.
@JohnConnorBear It doesn't make any difference for someone from, say, Japan, Indonesia or Viet Nam.
I am told in Japan males and females use different ways to express the same concepts, in short men and women speak a slightly different language. I am not sure if the vocabulary is different or it is the grammar or the way the same words are pronounced. Can anybody confirm?
Anyway, that was to say the "no gender", like anything else, can't be moved from a place and superimposed over another.
There are few exceptions like "LucA", "AndreA" or "SimonE" that are all male names, I think of greek origin.
And then just to confuse everything even more, Andrea and Simone are female names in some languages. In Swedish, for example, those names are female and the male equivalents would be Andreas and Simon. Similarly, Robin, commonly a female name in English, is (almost) purely a male name in Swedish.
So yeah, gender should never be assumed from a name.
Actually the problem is Andrea is not a traditional Swedish name, then it doesn't follow the "rules" of the language (which I don't know BTW but I guess it is in the family of germanic languages). Originally it was a male name from the greek word "andros" that is the same as latin "vir", for "man". Andreas is something like "true man" so it doesn't fit well for women. On a side note from "vir" comes "virtus" or "virtue" in english, that means the male strength of character.
I am not confused.
In Italian it is "aeroplanO" and since it ends on "O" it is "male".
I was taught to say «la mano», not «il mano»… (I'm kidding. I know «mano» isn't a relevant example at all)
I don't get it, that confuses me instead.
Do you like the show?
@JohnConnorBear Gwen is a dragon, who sometimes breathes fire. She is also performing magic on a daily basis to solve problems and hunt down bugs.
I like magic because it shows that what we see is not as real as we believe it to be. The mind plays tricks on unmindful people who get emotional about things that are impermanent, and not at all what they seem to be.
The Buddha only approves of one kind of magic.