Just come back, Dan
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@OlgaA Oh it took a loooong time, like hours and hours on full scroll speed ahead
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I think that Vivaldi is on the best way
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@Sushrut brave is just a chromium clone, completely unusable and that's not going to change
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@valiowk I'm glad someone took the time to look at the source
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@thomasp Maybe they're not the only one
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@Pathduck Of course not! But I thought this is something they donβt want us to doβ¦
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@louaymd said in Just come back, Dan:
@mossman: Why is everyone talking about this mail client, what's the big deal? (genuinely curious)
What Ayespy said, plus in my case the fact that I want to have a local, searchable, archiveable copy of my mail instead of clunkily going through some website all the time - and because experience with mail in Opera means I know just how most other mail clients are in comparison.
Signed, someone still using Opera 12 as his mail client while waiting years for the promised Vivaldi mail client...
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@mossman the issue with mail clients nowadays is pretty big responsibility and featureset of servers that either isn't exposed at all or is exposed only via proprietary protocols, even things like mark as (not) spam aren't working properly usually, and if we get to contacts and calendar sync or accessing GSuite without IMAP access it's a real mess
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@Sushrut zero customizability, terrible extensions API than can barely do anything, the most basic features are missing
chromium in it's all glory
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@Sushrut these thing brave has are more of POC quality and need proper replacement for daily use anyway
and remember: Vivaldi doing better doesn't mean it's ready for daily use either, it's still way below the threshold, though has much less issues and hopefully will fix most of them (but afaik adblocker will remain disabled and replaced by uBO)
we are people coming from Opera and Firefox (before their brutal deaths obviously), there's no way we'd settle with glorified chromium
what's missing? toolbar config, middle click to open new tab, gestures and hotkeys configuration, removal of annoying close tab buttons, a lot of APIs for extensions (that V also misses, once again, this should be WE + pushing towards real progress cause M alone isn't making it right) and likely tons of smaller stuff that will be annoying once bigger issues get fixed (hint: they won't, brave js meant to stay glorified chromium for some reason)
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