Why we introduced Ad blocker to Vivaldi browser



  • @JohnConnorBear Well, from your words it seems though all we female users will still be ok. 🙎🏻♀

    More seriously however, if Mv3 really does officially deploy, & if then as expected it kills uMatrix [arguably my most Must-Have extension] in all chromium-based browsers, & if V Devs are unable to magic-up some workaround, then i shall have no option other than to revert to FF-Nightly again [ie, still with uM therein].

    Google disgust me.



  • @JohnConnorBear Well, i have now finished designing my new personal privacy policy.

    1. If goggle kill uM in chromium-based browsers, and if V Devs cannot replace it with some native functionality that provides ALL of the uM functionality, then i exit stage left from chromium browsers & return to FF-Nightly with uM.
    2. If Mozilla do as you fear & kowtow to gargle & also kill off uM, then i am switching off my pooter, climbing back under my doona, & holding my breath til i turn blue purple.

    I can almost see gargoyle shaking in their boots now...


  • - Ambassador -

    You can remove the "unneeded crap" from the browser, if the internet does too. If not, it is like getting naked in a tropical jungle full of dangerous animals.I suspect that if "naked" Opera 12 gets online today, it won't take until the PC is going to become suspiciously slow and the desktop is full of pop-ups and strange things And the browser doesn't necessarily get you where you want to go.



  • @Catweazle since I keep Opera 12 for mail backup, I can answer that question...

    The practical reality is that most sites still look okay, but there are far too many which simply don't work properly. Unfortunately, unless you only regularly visit a specific set of sites which happen to work, you can't really use it for browsing any more.

    On the security side, I can't say that seems to be an issue...


  • - Ambassador -

    @mossman, it is clear that if you use an old and naked browser just to see the mail, post in this forum and little else, you will not have problems, but if you surf a lot, making intensive use of the network, things change. Apart from having compatibility problems with some current formats, the risk is not negligible to catch all kinds of unpleasant things.



  • Extensions aren’t always the best solution

    Yes, because built-in solution that exposes only 3 options and which's whitelist is controlled by you and not by the user is definitely a better solution. This way you can decided which ads user will see and if there will be some complaints you just brush it off as 'oop,s that ad wasnt detected" and carry on collecting your revenue from whitelisted partners.
    How long it takes until we see blog post, convincing your users that "ad whitelists are good, this I what allows Vivaldi to continue existing!". I give 1.5-2 years tops. Boy, do I love hypocrisy.



  • @GT500 Has gorhill confirmed that he will not support ublock in chromium.?.
    As far as i am aware it is only the filters which will be capped in the chromium version.


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    @Kein said in Why we introduced Ad blocker to Vivaldi browser:

    Extensions aren’t always the best solution

    Yes, because built-in solution that exposes only 3 options and which's whitelist is controlled by you and not by the user is definitely a better solution. This way you can decided which ads user will see and if there will be some complaints you just brush it off as 'oop,s that ad wasnt detected" and carry on collecting your revenue from whitelisted partners.
    How long it takes until we see blog post, convincing your users that "ad whitelists are good, this I what allows Vivaldi to continue existing!". I give 1.5-2 years tops. Boy, do I love hypocrisy.

    For this I suppose they allow you to add your own lists to the ad and tracking blocker or those of uBO, if you want (although at the moment only in Vivaldi Desktop), to control us better.
    Think and inform yourself, before calling others hypocritical.



  • @Catweazle What? Stop trying to dilute the point, nobody was talking about managing exception, I was talking about built-in whitelists we never get to control. When you install uMatrix or uBlock you have total control of all blacklists and whitelists, there is nothing hidden from you because "creator/this_guy" knows better. If some ad or tracker go through you always can find out why and update lists.
    This isnt the first time Vivaldi caught in shady stuff and being no better than Google: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/24029/return-of-spyware/14



  • @Kein You are very free to remove or add any tracker/ad blocking lists you want, including the built-in ones.

    As for "hidden stuff", you can also inspect the built-in lists; all it takes is a simple right-click.



  • @AltCode said in Why we introduced Ad blocker to Vivaldi browser:

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    can adding custom [filter list] be added for android version? https://filterlists.com



  • @rjackdaw As far as I know, not yet, but I do believe the devs said this ability will come in a later update.



  • Is there a way to trigger it off/on for specific webpages without manually adding it to the exclusion list (similar to how Brave handles it)?

    There are some websites where adblockers can ruin functionality + some websites use ads as their sole income.


  • Vivaldi Team

    @Blatchie You can change the blocking level per site from the badge icon on the address bar.
    More info on our Help Page.



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  • But it doesn't work.



  • Thank you for implementing ad blocking.



  • Great article. Thanks for letting us choose!


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