Why we introduced Ad blocker to Vivaldi browser
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Really happy to have it. It makes the Android browser much more competitive. I prefer to leave it on by default, and then disable for sites I visit frequently. With the advent of web monetization: https://webmonetization.org/docs/getting-started and services like Scroll, we hopefully won't need to block so much of the web in the future.
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It is nice, but I don't fully understand what is the best choice when, like me, someone wishes to let ads that doesn't decrease the security of its browsing display into website, but want to block potentially malicious ads. I just understand that there's an option to block intrusive ads (I still don't know if it needs to choose the internal ad blocker option of Vivaldi to works). What is the best way to allow ads that are safe but block those that can arm my pc?
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@JSeb Welcome to the Vivaldi Community
The best way is to disable the ad-blocker on sites you trust, and that you want to support. But keep tracker-blocker enabled, there is no need for trackers to support a site.
The setting under Privacy "Block ads on abusive sites) should also be enabled.
Oh and just seeing ads cannot really "harm" your PC. Don't click on them, don't believe what they tell you, and never ever install anything through an ad. And run a good anti-virus just in case
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@pathduck: Thanks for the precision! I'll do this for sure.
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@Steffie , hi, nice to see you again. Yes, although there is less Linux malware circulating, there are, too, and there is no decent Linux AV.
In the network you have to have eyes at the nape of the neck and not trust even your shadow, the SO is the least of it.
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@Catweazle said in Why we introduced Ad blocker to Vivaldi browser:
not trust even your shadow
Oh definitely! I stopped trusting that disreputable thing years ago... i found it kept going behind my back.
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Please give us a manual option to list cashback sites as an exception.
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@JohnConnorBear , you can do some things through extensions, for example using this
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@JohnConnorBear Well, from your words it seems though all we female users will still be ok.
More seriously however, if Mv3 really does officially deploy, & if then as expected it kills uMatrix [arguably my most Must-Have extension] in all chromium-based browsers, & if V Devs are unable to magic-up some workaround, then i shall have no option other than to revert to FF-Nightly again [ie, still with uM therein].
Google disgust me.
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@JohnConnorBear Well, i have now finished designing my new personal privacy policy.
- If goggle kill uM in chromium-based browsers, and if V Devs cannot replace it with some native functionality that provides ALL of the uM functionality, then i exit stage left from chromium browsers & return to FF-Nightly with uM.
- If Mozilla do as you fear & kowtow to gargle & also kill off uM, then i am switching off my pooter, climbing back under my doona, & holding my breath til i turn
bluepurple.
I can almost see gargoyle shaking in their boots now...
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You can remove the "unneeded crap" from the browser, if the internet does too. If not, it is like getting naked in a tropical jungle full of dangerous animals.I suspect that if "naked" Opera 12 gets online today, it won't take until the PC is going to become suspiciously slow and the desktop is full of pop-ups and strange things And the browser doesn't necessarily get you where you want to go.
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@Catweazle since I keep Opera 12 for mail backup, I can answer that question...
The practical reality is that most sites still look okay, but there are far too many which simply don't work properly. Unfortunately, unless you only regularly visit a specific set of sites which happen to work, you can't really use it for browsing any more.
On the security side, I can't say that seems to be an issue...
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@mossman, it is clear that if you use an old and naked browser just to see the mail, post in this forum and little else, you will not have problems, but if you surf a lot, making intensive use of the network, things change. Apart from having compatibility problems with some current formats, the risk is not negligible to catch all kinds of unpleasant things.
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Extensions arenβt always the best solution
Yes, because built-in solution that exposes only 3 options and which's whitelist is controlled by you and not by the user is definitely a better solution. This way you can decided which ads user will see and if there will be some complaints you just brush it off as 'oop,s that ad wasnt detected" and carry on collecting your revenue from whitelisted partners.
How long it takes until we see blog post, convincing your users that "ad whitelists are good, this I what allows Vivaldi to continue existing!". I give 1.5-2 years tops. Boy, do I love hypocrisy. -
@GT500 Has gorhill confirmed that he will not support ublock in chromium.?.
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@Kein said in Why we introduced Ad blocker to Vivaldi browser:
Extensions arenβt always the best solution
Yes, because built-in solution that exposes only 3 options and which's whitelist is controlled by you and not by the user is definitely a better solution. This way you can decided which ads user will see and if there will be some complaints you just brush it off as 'oop,s that ad wasnt detected" and carry on collecting your revenue from whitelisted partners.
How long it takes until we see blog post, convincing your users that "ad whitelists are good, this I what allows Vivaldi to continue existing!". I give 1.5-2 years tops. Boy, do I love hypocrisy.For this I suppose they allow you to add your own lists to the ad and tracking blocker or those of uBO, if you want (although at the moment only in Vivaldi Desktop), to control us better.
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@Catweazle What? Stop trying to dilute the point, nobody was talking about managing exception, I was talking about built-in whitelists we never get to control. When you install uMatrix or uBlock you have total control of all blacklists and whitelists, there is nothing hidden from you because "creator/this_guy" knows better. If some ad or tracker go through you always can find out why and update lists.
This isnt the first time Vivaldi caught in shady stuff and being no better than Google: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/24029/return-of-spyware/14 -
@Kein You are very free to remove or add any tracker/ad blocking lists you want, including the built-in ones.
As for "hidden stuff", you can also inspect the built-in lists; all it takes is a simple right-click.