FFMPEG (H264)



  • I can download FFMPEG for Windows, http://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/ Is there a way to get FFMPEG to work so that I can watch Youtube videos in H264?



  • FFpmpef support was introduced experimentally in two weeks ago, then removed a week ago because of a regression.

    It should return veeeery soon.

    Anyway getting the standard FFmpeg binaries is not enough, you need to compile them.

    Which is pretty easy on Linux but less straightforward on Windows.


  • Vivaldi Translator

    It would be more useful if developers would make use of the regular FFDShow filters in Windows.
    http://www.free-codecs.com/download/ffdshow.htm
    http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net
    I have so many separate FFMPEG implementations installed in both 32 and 64 bit, it is getting annoying.



  • @Dr.Flay:

    It would be more useful if developers would make use of the regular FFDShow filters in Windows.
    http://www.free-codecs.com/download/ffdshow.htm
    http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net
    I have so many separate FFMPEG implementations installed in both 32 and 64 bit, it is getting annoying.

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    Seem pretty obvious to do what you are asking for.

    The truth is that is not simple as one can though, mainly because the complications due to the sandbox mechanism.

    Doing that is not impossible, but requires large human resources and a long timeframe, and Vivaldi is in short of bot of them.


  • Vivaldi Translator

    Yes, I can see that for a browser it could be a security issue, but I generally despair at the concept of shared libraries and folders when they hardly ever get shared.
    I hate to think how many implementations of Lame MP3 I would find in my PC if I counted (at least it is small).
    Each time there is an OpenSSL update I have to scour my PC and manually update multiple programs, when they should just use 1 in the system libs store.

    Update 1 and so update all programs that use it. That is what we still do on Amiga OS.
    It is the best way to keep old software updated with fixes and new features, and safe/protected when the program is stale or abandoned.
    Amiga web browsers come with internal CoDecs but can fall-back to any standard OS CoDecs. In fact almost all Amiga software will fall-back to OS CoDecs.
    No special bridge or browser plugin is needed to add features such as Quicktime, Realmedia, or Flash etc.. All you need is for the OS to be able to read it and so can the browser.

    Externalising a component does give an extra attack surface, which is why Google are trying to keep things all internal.
    Flash, Java, Quicktime, Realmedia etc. are all external plugins, so unless Google intend to support every possible CoDec, we will still need plugin access into the future.

    The same criteria exists. A CoDec whether internal or external must be secure, so as long as you trust the source and ability of the developers, you have the same worries or lack-of.
    I like having VLC (also build around FFMpeg) working as the decoder in my browsers. If there is a VLC security update or improvement then all my browsers will benefit.
    VLC even allows browsers to play tracker modules !

    VLC is available for Windows, Linux and Mac so could easily provide a powerful and standardised experience.
    Plus, nobody will ever complain about having VLC.



  • @Dr.Flay:

    Yes, I can see that for a browser it could be a security issue, but I generally despair at the concept of shared libraries and folders when they hardly ever get shared.

    I'm with you on that.

    And isn't just a technical matter.

    If my OS has the h264 paid by the OS maker (and, in turn, by me) and a program can't use it. The SW house that make that program must pay again (and in turn I have to pay twice for the same code)

    And that's is not a waste of technical resource, It's a steal.


  • Moderator

    FFMPeg from Zeranoe not work with Vivaldi! You need a special one.

    If you want to have FFMpeg+H264 you need to compile the same Chromium version as Vivaldi and compile FFMpeg and copy the produced ffmpeg.dll into Vivaldi program folder.
    Not easy to do.

    In a week or so a member of Vivaldi Community has tested compiling and may release a user version of ffmpegdll.
    Please stay tuned.


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