How we learn from the past


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    Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg is a german physician, virologist, pulmologist and Health Policy Adviser. He is an Honorary Member of the Parliamentary Assembly of Council of Europe (PACE)

    https://youtu.be/MIoVbnKBI9k


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    Let us all hope and pray that the covid-19 pandemic is short lived.
    Good to hear that Vivaldi is showing wisdom in allowing the "miracle workers"
    that build this wonderful browser to work from home.


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    😱 I hear in BR3 (Bavarian Broadcasting) radio, in some parts of Bavaria we have so much dumb people. They are gathering, running into supermarkets in a crowd (whole family with children!) instead of staying home as it was as a official announced and restriction by Bavarian government.

    Such behavior makes me feel angry and little bit anxious 😷 as i have chronical asthma bronchiale and belong to risk group 🧓🏻 of older (50+) people 😞

    Stay safe and keep care.


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    @Gwen-Dragon , I'm sorry to hear it. Well be careful and especially not to touch your face without washing your hands first, this is the best way to avoid contagion. This also applies to the annual flu. As he said Virologist in the video I left, annual flu also always carried 15% coronavirus, and vaccines only target some of the viruses that cause the flu.This is why the flu has these fatalities, despite vaccines.Take care, please.


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    @Catweazle Yes we know about hand washing and keeping distance and we keep care.
    Thanks for your kind words. 💛

    And as you have many infections in Spain, please take care, too.


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    @Gwen-Dragon It is not unusual for people to be dumb about science.

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    @Catweazle Could you tell us what the title of the video was, maybe it can be found elsewhere.


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    @Gwen-Dragon , at least in the town where I am, the people so far have been very disciplined, keep distance in the lines, wear gloves in the supermarket and there are very few trips.


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    @Gwen-Dragon Thanks. Yeah that's the one I've been watching the past few minutes 🙂


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    @catweazle: Yeah. It's not a flu.
    If nothing is done, we are looking at between 12 and 78 millions deaths.
    Hysteria is never useful. But we must take stronger measures than just good hygiene.


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    @catweazle: Coronavirus is the family of the virus. SARS-CoV-2 is the name of the virus. Covid-19 is the disease caused by the virus (SARS-CoV-2 is to HIV what Covid-19 is to AIDS)


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    @Cqoicebordel said in How we learn from the past:

    @catweazle: Yeah. It's not a flu.
    If nothing is done, we are looking at between 12 and 78 millions deaths.
    Hysteria is never useful. But we must take stronger measures than just good hygiene.

    In all serious and highly contagious diseases there are many millions of deaths if the indicated measures are not taken. Covid is transmitted in a similar way as the flu and therefore similar precautions, such as isolation from infected people, are shown to be efficient. Large crowds, often disinfecting surfaces and items of public access, wear gloves in stores, and avoid touching your face without washing your hands well beforehand. This and more is already doing in Spain, apart from important economic and social measures, to avoid business bankruptcy, unemployment, pause mortgages and credits, prohibition to cut energy supplies due to non-payment , care for the elderly, food aid and care for the poor, etc. to avoid a social and economic bankruptcy caused by this pandemic.
    Above all, awareness campaigns for the population, where the need for certain precautionary measures is explained and what can and cannot be done, since ignorance is the main causing the infection, as Gwen said with what happens in Bavaria.



  • @jon: Absolutely.

    @catweazle: actually, about the flu thing - one of the leading European epidemiologists states: After this, I hope people will understand they are underestimating how dangerous flu really is as a disease and get a flu shot every year, if nothing, to protect the elderly and vulnerable.
    As for Covid - we have no shots, no medicine, no immunity. Without appropriate measures, our vulnerable are as good as on their own, with no appropriate 21st century medical help if they are too late in a spike of infected people.
    I, for one, will probably have to look for new employment in a ravaged economy as things stand, but first thing's first - we have to slow this beast down until scientists come up with something useful.


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    @nenad-latinovic , the main problem in Spain now is the lack of material and health personnel, due to cuts in public health, applied by the previous government to benefit private health. However I applaud the solidarity and discipline that the population shows in the confinement and also in the spontaneous volunteering of professionals to help where they can.


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