Option called "tab cycler starts on current tab"...
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Please add an option called "tab cycler starts on current tab". So when CTRL+TAB is first pressed, the tab cycler stays on the current tab instead of automatically switching to the next tab. This gives us the additional benefit of holding CTRL+TAB as a convenient way to temporarily peek at tab thumbnails. And we can still switch tabs by pressing CTRL+TAB more times if we want.
[bug reported VB-81584]
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@TsunamiZ said in Make the tab cycler stay on the current tab...:
This lets us hold CTRL+TAB to peak at it without changing tabs, which adds another use for it.
I'm having trouble understand what this use case might be - could you explain a bit more, please?
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currently, after we press and release CTRL+TAB, it switches to the next tab. as a workaround, we would need to press SHIFT+CTRL+TAB to switch back to the current tab before releasing it. so by having an option to make it simply stay on the current tab to begin with, it would avoid this issue. then we would be able to use CTRL+TAB to peek at it without hassle. it will let us use it as both a tab switcher and a multi tab previewer.
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@TsunamiZ I guess what I'm not understanding is why you would need to "peek" at the current tab, when you already have it open.
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@TsunamiZ What should happen when you release ctrl+tab after peeking? And if that would take you back to the current tab, how would you switch to another tab using your suggested tab switcher implementation ? Click on it? Press another key, such as enter?
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it is about peeking at many tabs at once, not just the current tab. by default, the tab cycler displays the thumbnails of many tabs at once, not just one at a time, unless you set the tab cycler to display as list.
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with this new setting, to switch to next tab, simply hold CTRL and press TAB twice to proceed with tab switching as normal. it just won't switch tabs on the first press, but instead stay on the current tab initially. it is really quite simple.
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What I'm asking is how would you switch to another tab using this tab switcher implementation if you wanted to? Unless you mean this tab switcher is not really a "switcher" but rather a visual tab overview that is not meant for switching, just viewing.
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with this new setting, to use it more like a tab switcher, you would need to hold CTRL and press TAB twice quickly, which would skip past the first press's inaction. so it just requires an additional TAB press at first. alternatively, you can hold CTRL+TAB and click on the tab you want in the tab cycler.
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@TsunamiZ said in Make the tab cycler stay on the current tab...:
we would need to press SHIFT+CTRL+TAB to switch back to the current tab before releasing it to prevent this.
I usually hit the escape key when I want to cancel the tab switching dialog. There's a bug in the tab switcher where I actually do let go of Ctrl and the dialog remains. If I want to change to a different tab I either click the one I want or use the keyboard, ctrl-(shift-)tab or the arrow keys and enter. If I want to cancel I just click the mouse somewhere not on the dialog, so that's a third method. There may be more ways to do it.
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@mtaki14 said in Make the tab cycler stay on the current tab...:
What I'm asking is how would you switch to another tab using this tab switcher implementation if you wanted to? Unless you mean this tab switcher is not really a "switcher" but rather a visual tab overview that is not meant for switching, just viewing.
I think @TsunamiZ means that when the tab cycler opens it should have the current tab selected in it. So if you just press
Ctrl+Tab
it opens the cycler, and when you release it you stay on the current tab because that is the selected tab. If you want to switch tab, just press Tab to cycle through the tabs normally and release Ctrl when you are on the tab you want to be on, just like it is now. The only change would be that the current tab is the one selected when the cycler opens instead of the next tab being selected.This would allow you to "peek" at all open tabs at once since the cycler shows tab thumbnails. Just
Ctrl+Tab
to open the cycler, look at the tabs, and release Ctrl to stay on the tab you are on (or Tab a bit to change tab). -
@Komposten said in Make the tab cycler stay on the current tab...:
This would allow you to "peek" at all open tabs at once since the cycler shows tab thumbnails.
Yup, I do this by hitting Ctrl-Tab, then when I'm done looking I either hit Esc or click outside of the dialog.
I have my cycler set to show a list, but that's useful because you can read more titles that way. Sorry if my previous post wasn't very clear, I was half asleep as I wrote it. -
In my opinion, Quick Tabs as Internet Explorer used to have would be a better solution.
It would display a speed dial page with all open tabs.
The Astrolabe Extension can perform this function.
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@Pesala speaking of quick, can't quick commands be used to search open tabs? That's not exactly the same thing, but worth keeping in your toolbox as yet another useful tool for tabs management in Vivaldi. Unless I'm mistaken... I'll test when I'm back at my desk.
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@BoneTone said in Make the tab cycler stay on the current tab...:
@Pesala speaking of quick, can't quick commands be used to search open tabs? That's not exactly the same thing, but worth keeping in your toolbox as yet another useful tool for tabs management in Vivaldi. Unless I'm mistaken... I'll test when I'm back at my desk.
If you simply open Quick Commands you have a list of all open tabs at the top.
And if you type something it will search among your open tabs, among other things.So yes, you are correct.
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@BoneTone I have mentioned that in another thread, but the Quick Commands dialog is text based rather than using thumbnails. Even when Display Tab Cycler as List is enabled a thumbnail of each Tab is visible.
Quick Tabs (or the Astrolabe extension) goes one better, showing a thumbnail of each open tab.
- One click shows all of the tabs as thumbnails
- One more click opens any chosen tab (unless there are too many tabs, in which case some scrolling is needed).
- For 100s of tabs, Quick Commands is best as it filters the tabs by name, making it easier to find the desired tab.
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@Pesala said in Make the tab cycler stay on the current tab...:
@BoneTone I have mentioned that in another thread, but the Quick Commands dialog is text based rather than using thumbnails. Even when Display Tab Cycler as List is enabled a thumbnail of
eachthe selected Tab is visible.FTFY
For 100s of tabs, Quick Commands is best as it filters the tabs by name, making it easier to find the desired tab.
This is why I have the tab cycler set to list... I use far too many tabs for the other display to be of much use. I also so rarely look at the thumbnail for the selected tab that I forgot it existed. I actually hardly look at the cycler at all. The vast majority of the time I'm swapping to the most recent tab, so I hit a shortcut on my keyboard that throws a single Ctrl-Tab (it's actually hold g and tap s). If I want to switch to the 2nd, or third most recent, then I hold Ctrl-Tab (actually hold k while tapping tab).
The easiest way to see what tabs are open is to use the Window Panel. Then you don't even have to press a key (much of the time) and just glance over. But it would be good to set an easy shortcut so you can make the panel switch to the Window panel whenever necessary.
Note: One thing I think is worth pointing out that the current behavior is standard GUI behavior. Hold Alt and hit Tab... it doesn't stay on the current window. Try Ctrl-tab in any other app. This should perhaps be moved into feature requests for options, as it would be pretty bad for Vivaldi to break longstanding UI convention by default. Is there any other app that keeps the current tab/document highlighted after a single Ctrl-Tab tap?
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updated first post
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updated first post
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Hi, Unfortunately the developers have decided to mark this request as "Will not do", which means this request won't be implemented in Vivaldi.
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