Switch to disable picture-in-picture / video popout icon
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@undernet said in Switch to disable picture-in-picture / video popout icon:
does not disappear
it does, move the mouse pointer away from the video
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I would rather downgrade and bite whatever security risk than having a button showing in the most obvious place of every single video and there's no way of disabling it, customization is the major reason I'm using this browser.
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Just to reiterate: I "like" the option of having the button for "windowed" videos and I would like to keep using it.
So IMO please add an option to remove it over fullscreen videos but the button should be able to stay over embedded videos. -
Hi, I still not understand why user are so annoyed about this tiny icon which fade away in 5/10 of a second in every video portal I test it. Icon in fullscreen fade out, too.
So I am a bit annoyed about user have to change browser or downgrade because of this small UI glitch.Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin Yes. People get annoyed when spoilt brats rant about not very much, without even bothering to search first to see if it is a known issue.
Forum policy is to censor people who complain about spoilt brats complaining instead of censoring the spoilt brats for ranting in the first place. Such is the dystopian world in which we now live.
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@mib2berlin
I am one of those complainers and one of those who reverted back to the previous build.:) But I can understand your reaction: it is indeed a small thing, so why react so strongly about it?
Well, for a lot of people it is intrusive. Especially for those who do not want or hate that hole PIP thing. And it appears on almost all videos, even small preview videos. It feels like it forced down out throats this way. We know now that it is "In Progress" to have a choice to have that button in view or not, but in the beginning that was not clear.
So, did we complain too soon? IMHO: no. But ranting about it now while it is In Progress, indeed it spoiled. -
@mib2berlin said in Switch to disable picture-in-picture / video popout icon:
Hi, I still not understand why user are so annoyed about this tiny icon which fade away in 5/10 of a second in every video portal I test it. Icon in fullscreen fade out, too.
So I am a bit annoyed about user have to change browser or downgrade because of this small UI glitch.Personally, I found that the button didn't fade away - on several different machines and user profiles - unless you specifically moved the cursor off the side of the screen... (and even then it sometimes came back)
Other than that I agree with Menno555 - the fact it was "forced" upon the user base, without notice and in such a rushed manner, is what has annoyed people. This is not the type of thing we expect from Vivaldi! Of course, people quitting Vivaldi over it is a childish overreaction, and of course most of us will wait for it to be fixed, but it shouldn't have happened in the first place.
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The reason this makes so many people uncomfortable is because it breaks a rule that at least I take for granted: the browser should not display its own content in top of a web page.
Let's say I'm designing a page, and I want to present a video, and I want to give it custom, very clean looking controls. With this feature turned on, the browser is effectively breaking my page. It doesn't matter if it is just an icon. In fact, it doesn't matter if it's just a pixel. My page is no longer displaying the way I intended. And the browser is directly responsible of that, because it's drawing in top of my content.
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@mib2berlin maybe you'd understand better if it was as broken for you as it is for most of us complaining here where it DOESN 'T DISAPPEAR from the screen with the rest of the ui and REMAINS ON SCREEN even in FULLSCREEN.
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Personally, I have a bad habit to frequently move the mouse, even when I'm watching a video, and although the usual controls of the video are at the bottom and don't bother me, this pip icon is constantly on the middle of the video or the screen if it's fullscreen.
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+1 requesting a way to hide / disable / remove this feature
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Hello,
Please remove this function. It is unnecessary and annoying. -
Asking for removal of a feature that might interest some people is egoistical.
I'm all about for keeping all the features, but selectable in settings. -
Currently, the function is more disturbing than helping. This is how it looks on Facebook:
It does not need to be removed, but in its current form, in my opinion, it should not be enabled by default, because it too interferes with the appearance of websites.
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I think a good way of implementing any kind of button on top of videos will always be difficult to find, no matter the placement or size. Top-center is really the only location it can be realistically placed, and even there it will interfere with stuff depending on circumstance.
Hopefully we'll get an option to disable the icon in the next snapshot any day now, and I think they'll try to push this to the stable as well as soon as possible once confirmed to work.
For properly working PiP I think the only long-term solution is to simply wait for sites to implement it themselves in their players. Some sites already do so.
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@iAN-CooG said in Switch to disable picture-in-picture / video popout icon:
Asking for removal of a feature that might interest some people is egoistical.
I'm all about for keeping all the features, but selectable in settings.To impose a feature deteriorating the user experience is simply not ok. It has nothing to do with being "egoistical".
Vivaldi first promise on its home page is very simple:
From the look and feel, to how you interact with your browser, every aspect of Vivaldi can be tweaked and customized. You’re in control.
PiP in its current form should have never been implemented in the first place.
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Another update and the thing is still there. I submitted a bug report a while ago and the team replied saying they were "aware of the problem" and were "working on it". Several updates later and the dam thing is still there, annoying me on every single video. I don't know why they need to "work on" something that they gratuitously added. A feature shouldn't be forced on all users just because a few wanted it. If you want users to decide on a feature, invite every user to a survey I ask if they say yes or no to it. And even if most say yes, add the option to disable it. Changing something that affects everybody because "a lot" of people want it is a bad idea. I consider this one of the most disastrous software decisions I've ever encountered. I'm seriously thinking of switching to another browser. I'll miss you, Vivaldi. Maybe I'll check in after a few months...
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@ian0delond said in Switch to disable picture-in-picture / video popout icon:
@iAN-CooG said in Switch to disable picture-in-picture / video popout icon:
Asking for removal of a feature that might interest some people is egoistical.
I'm all about for keeping all the features, but selectable in settings.To impose a feature deteriorating the user experience is simply not ok. It has nothing to do with being "egoistical".
Vivaldi first promise on its home page is very simple:
From the look and feel, to how you interact with your browser, every aspect of Vivaldi can be tweaked and customized. You’re in control.
PiP in its current form should have never been implemented in the first place.
Before the PiP function, if you look through the forum, there were as many or even more requests from users to implement this function, than now those who ask to remove it again. The only ones that are reasonable are those who ask to place the button somewhere else or to do this function as an option. Asking to remove it completely is selfish, bypassing everyone who has voted for this function.
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@Catweazle said in Switch to disable picture-in-picture / video popout icon:
Before the PiP function, if you look through the forum, there were as many or even more requests from users to implement this function, than now those who ask to remove it again. The only ones that are reasonable are those who ask to place the button somewhere else or to do this function as an option. Asking to remove it completely is selfish, bypassing everyone who has voted for this function.
True .... but, don't forget that people who are active on this forum (or actively read it) are computer/browser minded, they get excited about new features, experiments, the latest from the latest, and so on. And that is fine and understandable
Just as understandable that a lot of people (like me) just want a browser they like, without all kind of things like PIP. So, all that is discussed here is really not re-presentable for the general Vivaldi user.
But, totally agreed: it should not be disabled. The function to enable or disable is the normal and logical way to go. And that is the whole point of the discussion actually: this all would not be blown up if it that implemented right away. Presuming everybody wants PIP or doesn't mind it, is really a huge error. But then again: without errors, no progress -
It's now been what? Two weeks? Still not a word of acknowledgement on this. Does it seriously take this long to add in a few lines of code to disable a feature?