Crowd Deny - what is it?
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Since the latest Snapshots I've noticed a new folder in the Vivaldi User Data folder called "Crowd Deny". It sounded really fishy, so at first I was worried but a search showed it appears to be part of the Chromium source (something about notifications?)
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/d7199b463e6cdec4629cd955374b5259bef8df66There's very little information on the net apart from the mentions in the source code. And it still sounds kind of "scary" with that name, so I'm wondering if anyone (from the Team maybe?) can give an explanation what this component is used for?
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This would be really interesting to know. Thanks for bringing it up.
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Apart from taking me to Bible quotes and the Brave browser page, where they have also realized it, there is nothing about this, not even on the Chromium page they explain anything.Should we pray?
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The "Deny" bit sounds like its being used for permissions. "Crowd" as in crowded, busy or cluttered makes me think its to do with the revamp of notification permissions.
I wouldn't worry about this.
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@LonM Yeah, that's most likely it.
I'm not really worried, mostly curious what exactly it does.
Also what were they thinking with that name - it sounds like something the army would invent to control large crowds in a riot or something
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@Pathduck with how badly some sites abuse notifications, maybe sending in the army would be a good idea
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Also wondering what it is for.
Noticed when I checked on vivaldi://components
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This folder is part of Chromium's Safe Browsing feature. The file inside the folder, as you can see by its name, is the preload data. It gets distributed down to clients through the component updater and is in binary wire format. It's site reputation data that Chromium uses to determine what permissions a site should be allowed to have. It only effects sites on HTTPS, it's not active on HTTP, I don't believe.
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@LonM said in Crowd Deny - what is it?:
The "Deny" bit sounds like its being used for permissions. "Crowd" as in crowded, busy or cluttered makes me think its to do with the revamp of notification permissions.
I wouldn't worry about this.
Yeah, this stuff. Reputation data determines which permissions a site can have, which UI to show the user. Folder in the profile stores the most recently received preload reputation data. Sorry, I missed this post before writing mine. Based on the post prior to mine I didn't think this info was here. I'm not certain what "crowd" refers to exactly, if it's about how busy the UI is, or if it's about the reputation score coming from "the crowd" like multiple sources mashed together, or something else entirely.
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Interesting to note - this thread is the first result when searching for "crowd deny" with Google, DDG and Qwant
Also looks like the Brave guys are on the ball when it comes to handling this and blocking any connection to Google from this new component:
https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/7976
https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/7977Personally I'm not of the tinfoil-hat persuasion, I just wanted to know what it is and does. Too bad we can't get any technical information from the Vivaldi team about what it does though.
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@Gwen-Dragon Nope, it's been in V since the update to C80 (or even earlier). It's a part of Chromium and gets data from Google, apparently related to fixing notification spam sites. But again, it would be nice to get some information from the team about it
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