Enable Tab Groups in Vivaldi Android
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Efficient Bookmark Creation for Many Tabs
This has changed the way I create bookmarks when doing research to a faster method. Let's say you've done a search, then opened a few dozen tabs from the results and want to bookmark them.
Old Method & Its Problems
Previously I would use swipe to create all my bookmarks, then go back and close the tabs. This has a few issues in that you have to be aware of where you are with other tabs.
The 2 main potential errors are:
- Bookmarking unrelated tabs
- Closing tabs that aren't bookmarked, aren't part of this research process, etc.
The Tab Stack / Tab Group Method
Keeping all the related tabs in a group isolates them from all other open tabs and prevents both issues above. So what you've done before getting to this point is a search, and for each interesting result you long-pressed on it and selected open in new tab in tab group. When done opening tabs you can close the search tab. This creates a tab group full of just the tabs from the search.
The first step is the same as always, create a bookmark and edit it to place it into the desired folder (note that the edit link that shows up when creating a bookmark can be hidden by the tab bar now, so just click the bookmark icon in the menu to edit it. )
After you've edited the first to put it into the correct folder, all subsequent bookmarks will be created in the same folder.
Now comes the new faster method for creating a series of bookmarks. You can do this from either the left or the right most folder in the list but I find using the left most to be most natural -- my left thumb works the tabs and my right thumb works the V menu.
Close the tab for the first bookmark you've just created and get set on the tab at the start of your list.
Create All the Bookmarks Quickly
- Click V menu
- Click bookmark to create it
- Click the icon to close the current tab.
- Repeat.
At the end you've bookmarked all those tabs and restored Vivaldi to a clean state or the state it was in before your search.
Reopen a Few Tabs to Read Now
If you want to reopen any of those pages, there may have been a few you want to read right now, you can access them in 2 different ways. Obviously you can go find them in your bookmarks. A faster way that I usually use is to go to the tabs history or the tabs trash can (for the 25 most recent tabs only). They'll all be right at the top of the list.
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Thanks alot for letting us know. This feature is really helpful and enjoyable. I also enabled all of the 3 flags.
Would be great if they could be implemented into vivaldi's android settings by the devs. -
@BoneTone Is it possible to open a new tab within a group, instead of needing to move the new tab into the group manually? (By drag&drop myself)
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@hyperboraeer The plus button in the bottom bar or the context menu of any link.
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@madiso @BoneTone
This is not what I meant. The plus button for ''open tab in new group'' only appears after I created a group. After I added a tab to another by drag&drop.
But there's no plus button for a standalone tab.
There's no plus button in a single tab. Also not accessable in the V Logo of a single tab. Plus button only appears AFTER drag&drop one tab to another / creating a group.
For some odd reason I get a error when trying to upload a screenshot from my phone here... -
@hyperboraeer said in Enable Tab Groups in Vivaldi Android Beta:
@madiso @BoneTone
This is not what I meant. The plus button for ''open tab in new group'' only appears after I created a group. After I added a tab to another by drag&drop.
But there's no plus button for a standalone tab.
There's no plus button in a single tab. Also not accessable in the V Logo of a single tab. Plus button only appears AFTER drag&drop one tab to another / creating a group.
For some odd reason I get a error when trying to upload a screenshot from my phone here...My initial reaction was the same as @madiso, to chick the plus button on the right of the bottom bar listing all the tabs in the group. So, let's make sure I understand the scenario you're describing.
- You have a tab currently open and some page loaded in that tab.
- That tab is not a part of a tab group right now, it's just an individual tab.
- You want to create a new tab, which loads the default new tab page (speed dial), that also creates a new tab stack and groups itself with the current active tab
Is that accurate? If so, I don't even think that's possible on the desktop, let alone Android. Though I've never tried it on the desktop I don't recall any such action being available.
The quickest way to get what you want (a new tab group created with 2 tabs, the current active tab and a new tab, with the new tab active and the speed dial loaded) would be to long press on any link in the current page and choose open new tab in group, then just tap the new tab's icon and tap the speed dial icon. That, to me, is easier than creating a new tab in the normal way and then stacking them manually.
I wouldn't expect this feature to be created any time in the foreseeable future (if ever). Especially when you consider that 1) the feature doesn't exist on the desktop, and 2) tab stacks/groups on Android are not even an official feature yet. So your best bet is to come up with some workflow for this that's reasonably fast for the way you work. If you find a way that's different than what I suggested, let us know.
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- You have a tab currently open and some page loaded in that tab.
- That tab is not a part of a tab group right now, it's just an individual tab.
- You want to create a new tab, which loads the default new tab page (speed dial), that also creates a new tab stack and groups itself with the current active tab¨
That's exactly what I want. You described it perfectly well.
Is that accurate? If so, I don't even think that's possible on the desktop, let alone Android. Though I've never tried it on the desktop I don't recall any such action being available.
The quickest way to get what you want (a new tab group created with 2 tabs, the current active tab and a new tab, with the new tab active and the speed dial loaded) would be to long press on any link in the current page and choose open new tab in group, then just tap the new tab's icon and tap the speed dial icon. That, to me, is easier than creating a new tab in the normal way and then stacking them manually.
That's actually a good idea and solution. Thank you.
I wouldn't expect this feature to be created any time in the foreseeable future (if ever). Especially when you consider that 1) the feature doesn't exist on the desktop, and 2) tab stacks/groups on Android are not even an official feature yet. So your best bet is to come up with some workflow for this that's reasonably fast for the way you work. If you find a way that's different than what I suggested, let us know.
I also have my doubts, that it'll get implemented the way I want it, any time soon. I just think this should've been naturally a flag/feature for Android and/or for the desktop version, if it's not allready.
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@hyperboraeer said in Enable Tab Groups in Vivaldi Android Beta:
I also have my doubts, that it'll get implemented the way I want it, any time soon. I just think this should've been naturally a flag/feature for Android and/or for the desktop version, if it's not allready.
Yeah, I mean, it's an experimental feature as it is now. Any of these flags that you enable are not guaranteed to work, be free of severe flaws, or remain in the product come the next release.
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I have been using these flags for a while now, and it really isn't very reliable.
The Tabgroups just moves around the screen, and sometimes even goes to the middle of the screen. When trying to play Videos in Landscape mode, they still appear within the video, and block the Playback settings.
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@hyperboraeer I'd say it's very reliable, but buggy -- I can rely on the bug to behave the same all the time. But, this kind of thing is to be expected any time you modify flags; there's a giant warning at the top of the page. It reads in part, "you could lose browser data or compromise your security or privacy." That the issue is merely a piece of UI being drawn incorrectly, and it can easily be reset, is quite minor in comparison to the potential issues when using experimental features.
Now that Vivaldi has a native tab strip, the tab group icons at the bottom of the page are a bit redundant. If the bug is really bothering you, then I'd recommend turning it off and using Vivaldi's tab strip instead.
Personally, I prefer the group's tab strip, even with three bugs, so I do the opposite and turn Vivaldi's off. Vivaldi's native tab strip should be more stable however, since it's a released feature and the Chromium tab strip is experimental. I forget which flag it was that is for the strip but I think it's one of the other two.
The consistency of the bug actually makes it quite manageable. If the tab strip is visible but untouchable, just scroll up and it'll move up a touch and become responsive. Each time you open a link in a new tab in the group it'll jump up the screen a bit. If you do this 4 times in a row, it'll go off the screen. The next time you scroll up, the page itself and the tabs icon on the toolbar at the bottom can become unresponsive. If you find yourself in this situation, use the Vivaldi menu to create a new tab, then you can go into the tabs manager, close the new tab and open the tab group to get back to where you were.
When you go into the tab manager (to the root, not the group), and then open the group and select your tab, the tab strip resets to where it belongs. So, taking advantage of this fact, after opening 3 new tabs in a row, I just click into the tab manager, open the group and select my tab, which is highlighted making it easy to find. That avoids the page getting stuck and having to create a new tab like above.
When the bar moves to the middle of the screen, the page is initially unresponsive if you try to scroll by clicking below the tab strip. Just do a quick little scroll above the tab bar and now it'll scroll when you click below as well.
Sometimes, if I'm opening lots of tabs, I won't bother with the 3 new tabs then reset workflow and just keep opening new tabs. As long as I'm scrolling down and not up, everything is fine. Then after 4 pages of search results I'll create the new tab, close it, and return to my group to start reading all those tabs I created.
I hope all these workflows help some people manage this issue until it gets addressed, which should be done upstream I believe since these flags exist as part of Chromium. It's possible Vivaldi might need to make a fix, but I think it's likely Chromium does. Additionally, since Vivaldi has implemented their own tab strip UI, I would assume that they would focus on increasing its functionality and stability rather than addressing this experimental flag from Chromium.
I haven't had a chance to submit the bug to Chromium. I'm redoing my office -- I have a new sit-stand desk I'm halfway through building and my new chair is being delivered today. So I'm a bit busy at the moment. They may or may not already be aware of the issue.
*NOTE:* If somebody does check in with Chromium and either submits or finds the relevant bug, please post a link in this thread so we can all follow it and provide extra info if they need it.
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@BoneTone I love those flags, along with Tab Dragging, all my websites are organized. I strongly encourage the use of flags.
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almost 6 months later
i actually gave up on tab groups. it gives me monkey brain to much incentive to have even more tabs opened and turn it into a freaking bookmarking mess which is impossible to transfer anywhere else.
@BoneTone suggestions on how to actually bookmark them are too impractical for me and, as he says himself, it could be done in a myriad of ways without needing to turn on flags.
still got no good solution, but working on one. and looking for interested feedback... let me know.
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Vivaldi's bottom navigation bar preventing me from using tab group feature. Bottom navigation bar occupies extra space.
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Can somebody explain how to turn the tabs off? I and my wife both are using the latest build (3.5.2115.80). I don't have the group tabs enabled (I didn't even know they existed until today...), but her Vivaldi suddenly has the group tabs turned on and behave in a weird fashion. For one, some links get opened in a stack by default and some don't. The stack strip bar that appears at the bottom also behaves weirdly and keeps expanding upwards taking more and more space as more tabs get added to it. I reset her app and am waiting for my wife to start using it to tell me if it helped, but something is telling me it might not have...
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@alvk enter this in address bar
chrome://flags/#enable-tab-groups
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@BoneTone These tab group features have stopped working with today's update, Version 3.8.2267.25.
This is so unfortunate, since it's one of the most important features on mobile.
The tabs also look weird and bigger now. When you view them. -
@hyperboraeer I'm glad to see that I am not the only person having this issue. I tried resetting the experiments, restarting the app, and reenabling them. Unfortunately I didn't work.
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Hi,
I'm f... now. I used tabbed browsing extensively, now I stand here with hundreds of unorganized open tabs.
For me the greatest reason to use this great browser.Please bring back tabbed browsing!
Thanks 3di
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Hi
My Tab Groups also stopped working after the update to 3.8.2267.25, I use them extensively. I have tried disabling and re-enabling the Tab Group settings in vivaldi://flags but does not make any difference. Please re-enable Tab Groups again.