Update to Chromium 80 – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1800.5



  • Weirdly, after update to this shapshot Vivaldi has been a total resource hog on my old-ish Win7 x64 Elitebook 8530w — it made the PC totally unresponsive and didn't allow even opening Task Manager to kill it. Had to downgrade to previous build to get responsiveness back. Tested and confirmed on 2 identical Elitebooks with same specs, so it's not a single PC glitch.

    (Specs: Intel T9600 @2.80 GHz, 4GB RAM on Windows 7 x64 with all updates up to Win7 EOL, 32-bit Vivaldi Snapshot Snapshot 2.11.1800.5, now rolled back to 2.11.1792.3)

    Anyone else experiencing this on Win7?


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    @acnapyx I'll have to fire up my win7 box to test in the AM. Won't have a chance tonight.



  • @acnapyx not for me, everything normal. I have 5 tabs open, one playing a stream on twitch, several extensions active, max 5% at peak, but I'm on Win7 32bit, i5@3.3GHz.
    If anything you should run Vivaldi 64bit if you use win7 64bit, but with only 4gb RAM you shouldn't even touch 64bit at all, imho, it makes no sense to me. Add 4Gb RAM.



  • Site wide tab muting setting seems broken. (soundcloud, youtube, twitch etc.)

    Sound is still audible when a tab is loaded or refreshed, ignoring the 'site setting' set to mute. Muting the tab itself in the tab bar works fine and is preserved through tab refresh.


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    BUG: Vivaldi Spatial Navigation is broken and does not show any border around focused elements!




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    @Pathduck I think the dev team is fading out support of Vivaldi's Spatial Navigation and changing to Blink spatial Navigation.



  • @Gwen-Dragon Yeah, I guess it works just as well or maybe even better. If they do they should style it better so it's more visible where the focus is, like the Vivaldi one.

    I actually use this one:
    https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/spatial-navigation/gogippjaikoijhcdcioeajgpmlmchkba

    Works much better and I've changed some of the code to make it like I want it. Have you tried it?
    I wish my JS skills were better, then I'd try to improve the code which is really convoluted and maybe make a new extension as this one is really old and not maintained... 😕



    1. What about the additives blocking advertising in chromium 80 ? Does Vivaldi somehow react to this and is this version already in force?
    2. Maybe in the next update focus on slimming down the program ? Compared to Firefox, for example, it looks bad.
    3. Will Vivaldi return to the state in which he wanted to distinguish himself from the chrome ? Because looking at the changes in the user's agent or Vivaldi leaving Windows 7 with the chrome together, in my opinion Vivaldi is losing its individuality and its status as a secure browser. Because instead of betting on its own solutions it follows the course imposed by google.

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    @MattSolo45 said in Update to Chromium 80 – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1800.5:

    1. What about the additives blocking advertising in chromium 80 ? Does Vivaldi somehow react to this and is this version already in force?

    What is missing for you?

    1. Maybe in the next update focus on slimming down the program ? Compared to Firefox, for example, it looks bad.

    What has to be slimmed? Please tell us your wishes.

    1. Will Vivaldi return to the state in which he wanted to distinguish himself from the chrome ?

    No.



  • @Gwen-Dragon
    2) I mean the very size of the program occupied on the disk.
    3) So Vivaldi will not be innovative, but only faithfully submit to the imposed rule? I thought that Vivaldi is trying to distinguish itself from Google and I think it will be more like the Opera.


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    @MattSolo45 I think you misunderstand. Vivaldi will be enthusiastically innovative and will visually and operationally completely distinguish itself from Chrome. To do this, it will HAVE TO be larger on disk. There is no way to avoid this, as it has an additional layer that Chrome does not have.


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    @acnapyx On my paleolithic 32-bit P4 Win7 box with two, count 'em, two whole gigs of 200 MHz RAM, it is comparable to Vivaldi stable. Uses about the same amount of CPU and RAM. That said, it is difficult to measure, because clicking on anything in any app on that old box maxes out the cpu. At idle, however, both the old and the new Vivaldi hover around 2% CPU. Both open and operate just as expected. No freezes, no system capture.



  • @Ayespy Then it's probably hardware-specific problem on my device, can't tell for sure. Just to confirm Win7 is not the culprit tested latest snapshot on ThinkPad X220 with 8GB RAM, everything went smoothly and I see no difference at all. (You're right about going to at least 8GB but this machine required DDR2 so this upgrade is at best overpriced, at worst useless... probably it's time to let those old Elitebooks rest in peace, I guess.)
    Thanks for testing it, hope the problem solves itself in a few more snapshots. It's not a freeze per se, more like heavy swapping from hdd which makes everything unresponsive, but there's no sense to investigate further. 🙂



  • @rhk: I can't even figure out where the control for this is in Chrome (checked 80 beta), on the theory that it would be the same in this build. It used to be in Flags, but not anymore.

    It's interesting that Vivaldi announces support now (though I'm also confused by the word "always," since I wasn't aware that it "ever" did it before) that Chrome may have dropped it.



  • @mattsolo45: The way I understood it, someone correct me, is that when Manifest v3 is implemented (that may or many not happen with 80, I'm not up on the latest), v2 will also be supported. So nothing will change until v2 is killed.



  • Private window (Incognito) shows the extensions on address bar.


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    @rickmve I can confirm this.


    Thank you for reaching and sorry for the trouble.

    May be this issue is a bug.

    Please read

    carefully and report the bug to Vivaldi bugtracker.

    Again thank you for using Vivaldi.



  • @rseiler I know, I searched all flags but can't find anything related to video auto-play. We'll have to wait for an explanation from the developers.


  • Vivaldi Team

    https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2017/09/autoplay-policy-changes this link should explain a bit more in depth how this works


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